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First Arek'Jaalan Symposium : Restructuring & Leadership - YC116-YC117
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Joe Themachine
Sleeper Tech. Research Foundation
#1 - 2014-10-12 19:11:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Joe Themachine
I hereby call order to the first Arek'Jaalan symposium of YC116-YC117 as mandated by internal community communication, and upon receipt of 15 "Yes" votes from members of the Arek'Jaalan project.

This forum is now in order and in session.

Our topic is to decide on a new leadership, management, and scientific structure to manage, direct, promote, enhance, and enrich all independent research into sleeper technologies, and related scientific research currently classified under the Arek'jaalan umbrella of projects.

The number of central questions that we hope to answer must be restricted, in this session, to the following:


1- What is the new leadership, management, and scientific structure that members of Arek'Jaalan believe will yield the greatest value?

2- Who (either through recommendation or personal volunteering) should be considered for positions in this new management structure?

3- What should be the governing mechanism of this new governing body (elections of CEO, assignment of directors, voting ownership???)

4- How should executive, managerial , scientific decisions regarding project direction be made by newly elected/assigned governing body?


Please provide responses, solicit debate, engage in clean discussions and help the group to reach a consensus driven conclusion. It is important we reach SOME conclusion in this symposium.

Hereby signed:

Joe TheMachine - Interim Symposium Organizer

Edit: Per prior internal com. announcement, this forum will be concluded in two week from OP date, the opinions and data will be summarized, shared internally, and will be the initiating call for the second symposium dedicated to the voting process.
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#2 - 2014-10-12 19:17:54 UTC
Joe Themachine wrote:
What is the new leadership, management, and scientific structure that members of Arek'Jaalan believe will yield the greatest value?


The best way to ensure a fair scientific front is to ensure the leadership is not based on any one person who may have biases, but a community that self checks and self regulates.

Joe Themachine wrote:

Who (either through recommendation or personal volunteering) should be considered for positions in this new management structure?


As far as day to day management, I would suggest Guillome Renard may be a good choice, though I'm unsure if he would want the responsibility.

Joe Themachine wrote:

What should be the governing mechanism of this new governing body (elections of CEO, assignment of directors, voting ownership???)

I think the leading body should be a council or committee, possibly with voting, possibly not. The thing is, science isn't decided by popular consensus. What's true is true regardless of who votes for it, and that is something we should remember. Our pursuit needs to be of truth, not of any ideological objectives.
[quote=Joe Themachine]
How should executive, managerial , scientific decisions regarding project direction be made by newly elected/assigned governing body?

Its impossible to say without putting the situation out there, I would say that decisions should be made in an informed capacity on a case by case basis. If voting is being done, it should be something like 90% of the vote required to make a decision. We as scientists should be able to reach a consensus onto where our efforts would best be placed.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#3 - 2014-10-12 20:19:33 UTC
I can't believe I'm ******* saying this, but Riordan is right.

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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#4 - 2014-10-12 21:14:17 UTC
Quote:

1. What is the new leadership, management, and scientific structure that members of Arek'Jaalan believe will yield the greatest value?

2. Who (either through recommendation or personal volunteering) should be considered for positions in this new management structure?

3. What should be the governing mechanism of this new governing body (elections of CEO, assignment of directors, voting ownership???)

4. How should executive, managerial , scientific decisions regarding project direction be made by newly elected/assigned governing body?


1. We need organisation and standards. One or more directors of research, to create a standardised format for reports, to aid communication. An archivist, to organise and categorise reports and other articles. A committee to handle disputes and stop people stepping on each others toes.

2. Morwen Lagann is a fine administrator and secretary, as evidenced in A'J's previous incarnation. I volunteer myself as well, as a director of research, given that I am the de-facto head of what was the "ancient races" division, a position I was appointed to by the previous head.

3. I don't believe a formal corporation is necessary, individual members have interests outside of A'J, after all.

4. An Ethics Committee already should be existent, run by Esna Pitoojee last I heard. We can discuss things there.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#5 - 2014-10-12 21:18:48 UTC
I am willing to resume my position in the A&D division as chief archvist/lead, if there are no substantive objections to my doing so.

The mailing list archive needs a touch-up, anyway.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#6 - 2014-10-13 03:34:24 UTC
I would support Morwen Lagann's position as A&D Division chief Archivist, Valerie Valete's position as ancient races lead, and Esna Pitoojee as head of the Ethics Committee.

I'll volunteer to do...something. I was still in school during the last Arek'Jaalan, I interned at Site One.

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Solecist Project
#7 - 2014-10-13 09:01:10 UTC
This is interesting...

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Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#8 - 2014-10-13 09:04:03 UTC
Color me surprised but I'm very happy to see this happening. Best of luck to all of you involved.

-Eran
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#9 - 2014-10-13 10:47:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalaratiri
Should it be required, I would be happy to run security for this project .I do not have an overly scientific mind, but I have experience dealing with both Sleepers and Capsuleers. I like to think I'm actually pretty good at handling the latter.

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Kyllsa Siikanen
Tuonelan Virta
#10 - 2014-10-13 12:13:11 UTC
I'd be very willing to assist in whatever capacity I can. My bullshit detector is 2nd to none.

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― C.S. Lewis 
Solecist Project
#11 - 2014-10-13 13:22:13 UTC
This screams for a long con with hostile takeover.
I suggest being well aware of who you let join your ranks.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Jade Blackwind
#12 - 2014-10-13 14:43:31 UTC
It is long overdue that we, the capsuleers, took the continuation of the Arek'Jaalan projects into our own hands.

Thus I fully support my CEO here

Saede Riordan wrote:
The best way to ensure a fair scientific front is to ensure the leadership is not based on any one person who may have biases, but a community that self checks and self regulates.


On the other hand, I have no idea who mr. Renard is, and don't trust him to either manage the project or to collect the Sleeper materials that are supposed to be donated en masse. Why doesn't he present his vision here, on IGS, but instead resorts to third parties?
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#13 - 2014-10-13 16:58:29 UTC
This symposium is for two years ago?
Joe Themachine
Sleeper Tech. Research Foundation
#14 - 2014-10-13 19:50:48 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
This symposium is for two years ago?


Apologies if I might have gotten the years wrong. I thought this year was yc114 and next year was yc115, but its actually 16-17... Making that correction above.
Tsalaroth
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2014-10-14 14:10:55 UTC
1- What is the new leadership, management, and scientific structure that members of Arek'Jaalan believe will yield the greatest value?


2- Who (either through recommendation or personal volunteering) should be considered for positions in this new management structure?


3- What should be the governing mechanism of this new governing body (elections of CEO, assignment of directors, voting ownership???)

4- How should executive, managerial , scientific decisions regarding project direction be made by newly elected/assigned governing body?

Leadership: joint leadership through executive CEOs and directors as well as individual CEOs with potentially elected/mandated super-executives.

Management: much of it should come from "enablers" and external services. There should be little need for anything other than single managers for various areas within the project. IT will be important all around; science flows much better with it.

Science: This can be determined at the corporate / alliance level and it will emerge to the top on its own, once initial structure and collaboration has begun. Science will generate feedback for "Management" to take on new hurdles as they emerge.

I really think a loose (+1.0 standings) coalition is the best generalized structure for this project. No need to even change the name. If the coalition needs to be stronger, it can adjust.

Sorry for being a couple of days late to the discussion.

My credentials: 20 years in "enabling" at IT, project and corporate leadership levels. And also doing so for capsuleers for the past 3 years.
Tsalaroth
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-10-14 14:15:10 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
Color me surprised but I'm very happy to see this happening. Best of luck to all of you involved.

-Eran


We have friends in your alliance, we should talk sometime.
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#17 - 2014-10-15 07:43:51 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
[quote]A committee to handle disputes and stop people stepping on each others toes.


Given my past involvement in the project and extensive experience as a negotiator and a mediator, I'll volunteer to take care of the Internal Security division then.
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#18 - 2014-10-15 10:29:12 UTC
If we're going to have pirates doing our security, at least get Vincent Pryce.

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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-10-15 11:43:45 UTC
Saede Riordan wrote:
If we're going to have pirates doing our security, at least get Vincent Pryce.

Does he even have the patience for that?

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Kyllsa Siikanen
Tuonelan Virta
#20 - 2014-10-15 11:48:13 UTC
Saede Riordan wrote:
If we're going to have pirates doing our security, at least get Vincent Pryce.


I would be more than happy to join the security department, on thinking about it... I could certainly offset the impact of the more angelic volunteers, and my time with the RSS might be put to purpose.

I'm certain Mr. Caine or Ms. Kalaratiri will have no objections.

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