Player Features and Ideas Discussion

There are already high class agents of one empire in their adversary's empire (take the Minmatar L4 Security agents in Madirmilire and Bahromab as example). So I don't see a problem with the agents move around other empires where this particular NPC corp already has stations installed, as well as into beacon places (Natural Phenomena, Abandoned Battlefields, etc.) to offer missions there. Explanations for that can range from replacement of secrete ops operators due to too much attention by the local empire's authority and thus reduced effectiveness of their work to the already mentioned checking out areas, which are currently lacking surveillance, to (in case of Distribution agents) the distribution of necessary good and equipment to local forces.

Depletion in combination with changing locations has already been brought up and I am not opposed to depletion; however, not at the expense of changing locations, as depletion does not tackle (as stated above) the problem of worthless systems.

Mission runners (and ratters by extension) (I don't like the term carebear) in every corner of the universe (High sec, Low sec, NPC 00 and (if it happens) Sov 00 mission runners) should be subject to the same requirement of mobility as other professions in EVE are.

The motivation for this change is in parts also due to egoistical desires: I don't like to go to particularly active mission hubs to run missions there; instead I like to run missions or do other PVE things in a more solitary fashion. Suitable systems for that, however, are rare. In the wake of this recently introduced concept of push (players away from each other) and pull (them together), this can apply here as well by pushing players out of established places and pull them together dynamically on temporary formed mission hubs, for instance, close to Incursions.

I would not be muffled about that. I like the PVE content as what it should be: part of a living universe where less and less things remain static, as static content is not living. Instead, I would be, to some extend, curious about it. It's after all a new location, new systems, new neighborhood and you get to see something from the universe other than the area around Penirgman, Dresi, Osmon or Suroken.
It is also not like I had suggested the agents change their location on a daily basis; this would not make any sense as you usually don't switch jobs or job locations on a day-to-day basis. The players could still enjoy their daily PVE content for the larger part of weeks/months; however, at some point either allotted work for the agent has been cleared or objectives of the faction have been achieved and the agent either gets new work assigned in the same location or gets reassigned to other locations. A proper system for that would also have a notification system where the agent in question signalizes that their task or time here is about to end and maybe give a hint to 1-2 constellations where they are likely to be assigned to next. This way, players have plenty time to check these constellations out (via Dotlan or other geo-tools).

This "every second counts" mentality is also a thing that I like to see diminished as well. You play a game, or for me, you pursue a hobby - despite popular believe, EVE is still not a second job for which you pay instead of get paid. Players should enjoy their stay more and if it has to be encouraged by forced deceleration, a way to halt the grind a bit, it is absolutely working as intended by me. Which is not to say that players should not be allowed to grind if they want to grind, even with agent depletion and agent location shuffling, they can still do it.

Like it or not there are people in this game that enjoy the predictable nature of running mission for the same agent in the same system day after day. Why do you believe it is a requirement to destroy their game play when you can easily move around to different agents to accomplish your goal of new and different mission running experience. There is this wonderful tool in station called teh agent finder use it there is a universe full of lvl 4 agents that are waiting for you to come to them and experience all that they and there region of space has to offer.

As for the time element mentioned by several others. Why should I be forced to waste my game time moving to follow an agent/agents simply because you think that wasted time it is a great idea, or that it adds spice to the game? Again especially since the game already offers you the mechanic and the tools to achieve the same thing. All that is needed is the self discipline to actually make use of those tools and pack up and move. So mark your in game calendar and at the beginning of every month pack your stuff and move on down the road. There stagnation issue solved for you without affecting anyone else in the game.

Your use of the mathematical symbol for less than is puzzling here at best and at it's worst shows a complete lack of understanding of how and why many people run missions.

People run missions for income/free time or not enough time for anything else/fun/or RP

If your intent is to indicate that higher standings should get greater rewards then we have no issue.

Yes that would be it... It makes sense.

Does every other agent in the game except mine already do this rotating agents thingy? How did I get to be so important that CCP chose not to mess with my agents. Damn if I knew I had that much control I would have made other changes a long time ago.
But then it is more realistic that you are talking about the travel from agent to mission site, and if that is true then you have completely misunderstood, or you are deliberately misinterpreting what I say. Because the travel from agent to mission site is not what is being discussed here it is a random / semi random shifting of agents and the stations they are assigned to and it is this moving of agents that I am against.


I do something different all the time, I do not like running the same missions all the time so I personally am constantly on the move from agent to agent. Normally I move about once every 3-4 weeks that is how I know for a fact that everything the OP is complaining about can be resolved by simply moving on to a different agent.


Bored with the same missions over and over, move to another agent in another system or area of space and you will get a new sub set of the available missions.
Want to see a new background when running your missions then move to another area of space and you will have a new background.
Don't like the ganker magnet bottle neck you may be flying through like Osmon then move to another system or another area of space. There are many agents out there and most of them are in areas that do not create or suffer from the ganker magnet bottle necks like Osmon.
In other words to eliminate all of these problems and many others all you have to do is the same thing this idea would force on everyone else. And that is to pack up and move to another system.
On the other hand if a player for whatever personal reasons wants to stay in the same system, running the same missions for the same agent for months/years how does that affect you? Especially when you can very easily pack up and move to change it all.

Suggesting they deplete after x number of missions is slightly absurd in that it punishes activity. The central idea is solid though, I don't think it'd be at all unreasonable for agents to move around over a set period of time, perhaps a random timer of say 3-6 months or so - when their work is complete they get reassigned to another station.

If implemented correctly (ship hauler, etc. as stated above) shaking up this ridiculously stagnant system would be good for everyone, surely?

Industry did not change for years, neither have Sovereignty or Mining. The first and the latter have been changed and are still being changed quite substantially. Sovereignty is on the way of being changed substantially. POS will soon be changed substantially. How we see Corporations and Alliances is going to be changed substantially. While I not necessarily agree with the changes in themselves, I agree with CCP and many others that things have to change.

Players can still run their missions for the exact same agent all the time, as the agents don't go away. You simply follow them and keep up the good work for them. Unless they switch into Low sec for one reason or another; then it is up to the players to follow them or change to another agent in order to avoid the risk. If such a good agent, however, goes to Low sec, they give people living there the potential to earn their living for a certain period of time. If you really like an agent (in a RP-like fashion), you can truly prove your value to them by following them around and taking on greater risks in order to complete tasks. In Low sec, you have increased payments, in High sec you get rewarded with potentially quieter locals and less attention from the preying eyes of gankers.

I also don't see how people doing the markets would hate it. It would certainly shake up established markets around existing mission hubs a little bit as some agents would leave the area, but others would come in. Furthermore, new hubs would temporarily form when some agents group together. This is already the case with Incursions in remote areas (such as Solitude, Devoid, Derelik, Genesis or Khanid: people go there and set up their orders to support the local Incursions fleets. This dynamic market development would be strengthened with roaming around agents. They get rewarded with better profits and some exclusivity in the area. Local producers also potentially find a more direct sales market for their products instead of carrying their products to big hubs.