EVE General Discussion

Too some degree, I'm a masochist. I Enjoy mining. What I don't like is afk mining, it's boring, uneventful and not fun, apart from the odd laugh you get when someones untanked Mackinaw gets ganked next to you. Recently I aquired the skills to pilot a Prospect as a little side project to have a go at mining anomalies with in low sec, great I thought, tasty Crokite and Orche to be had!

The actual gameplay is enjoyable, mining, avoiding rats, gate camps and pirates, awesome! It feels like I'm risking something and its engaging ... Then you get your yield ... oh, well that's disappointing I thought ... this **** isn't even worth the risk, I might aswell afk mine in high sec with a Procurer for the same profit. The gameplay is there, but the numbers are wrong in my opinion, this is a bit sad, because its back to high sec mining I go ... I think the basic problem is the yields that come from the more valuable ores, it may be more valuable, but you just get a lot less of it for the size. But still, it's enjoyable to some degree.

They could remove rocks from belts in lowsec and just leave empty beacons and rats and nobody would even flinch. Lowsec has content and rewards for effort but definitely not under rocks :)

What about ninja gas trips in wh? More effort involved but I heard gas prices are attractive as a little side business/fun.

Yup, that will work well. But Risky mining in low sec is something I would like to see improved. CCP added so many elements to improve it, a capable ship, the anomalies ... But its let down by the risk out weighing the reward part of the gameplay, and the gameplay side of it is great.

Fit a covert ops cyno on that Prospect, get some miners to join you in low sec.

Light cyno, have some sb's cyno in for some win.

Mining needs a complete overhaul

Do you have any suggestions? The only thing I can think of is increase the Prospect ore hold.

I was trying the same thing out with an alt for a while there, just before the prospect came out. Zipping about in a venture in lowsec, scrounging for decent rocks. There wasn't much money in it, but it was fun for a while. Prospect should have improved the situation but all it does is cost a lot more for slightly less risk. I am disappoint.

As for improving the Prospect, giving it back a couple of drones with a 20m3 drone bay (so you can carry spares etc) would help the yield situation. Still, mining is in dire need of an overhaul so half-measures and small fixes are probably a waste of time at this point.

I kind of agree with this, the m3 penalty seams too high. I guess the consequences wouldn't be so bad if you only aquired it in low sec ... operating a major mining operation in low-sec would be a massive challenge, rewarding of course, but massive.

Giving all ores the same density would up the value per m³ and therefore per trip nicely but would also make anomaly mining a lot easier / quicker and thus lower risk.

because then people whine that the price of minerals falls when the oversupply screws the market, so people want even more minerals, so the cycle repeats until the following things are true.

high sec mining is better isk/hour.
null sec mining income is through the floor due to the flood of minerals from low sec.
low sec mining is still **** isk/hour and just as risky.

the isk/hour of mining is a reflection of the player driven economy, there's nothing ccp can do about the isk/hour of mining. if you want to make more isk, do activities that generate more isk.