Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Only on the condition that anyone can attack them at the cost of suspect flag on themselves and that they can get no remote assistance.

Otherwise we have a hauling ship that can't be killed by anything.

Before you say use dreads to gank them, it would require 5 dreads for a normal t2 tanked archon and it would cost about 15 bil.

Capital ships as they absolutely can't be allowed into highsec without penalties or it breaks every form of pvp and risk vs reward.

RL&DR: NO, CCP can't pull this off the right way.

As long as they still can't jump in highsec, and need to use gates like everyone else, I actually don't see any issue with this. They wouldn't be as good for hauling as freighters, and the New Order would gank them anyway if someone used them for that. Stupid people would use them to run level 4s and die hilariously to ninjas. The killmails would be absurd and wonderful.

I desire this entertainment, and want the dreads in on it too. caps are pretty when they die, everyone should get to see them first hand.

If they do this war dec corps will have triage archons for reps for high sec faggotry. Do you realize the amount of dps you need to bring to the fight to break something under triage reps?

These problems and many more are why CCP hasn't considered the idea of caps in highsec right now.

Given CCP saying they will be looking into this at a later time, great for them but i think that alone is a bad idea because it devalues the grandfathered caps in high sec like chribba's veldnaught. Then ontop of that you have the game play issues

The only way i see it working are capitals cannot use any capital sized modules or bonuses while in high sec so dreads cannot shoot unless micro fit or enter siege, carriers cant rep or go into triage nor can they launch more than 5 drones at a time ( also no fighters ). Rorquals cannot run the industrial cores so no compression or super links, supers same as carriers and if titans ever made it in no doomsdays ( obviously ) no bridge use, no guns.

I dont know whether jump drives should still be allowed on them or not like jump freighters can since on both sides of the coin it lets them jump away back to low or null, but also allows you to keep a cap fleet to hotdrop people with in highsec in relative safety.

Either way That pretty much makes them giant things to stare at or move around as you see fit with very little useage ability
sure dreads can undock and suspect bait, carriers can refit ships and use large transfers if they wanted, but overall they become mostly worthless and it pushes players to move them back to low or Null ASAP. And it makes jita a viable capital hull market, buy and fit the ships without the needs to fly the pieces to the hull which makes traders and builders a little happier about the change since their goods now dont need to be moved through dangerous space to low sec or null. ( unless they just sold in jita anyways in that case they get squat )

Also secondary thought i should just toss in here, if they do get allowed in highsec there should be a moratorium on building them there, would be easy enough to say high sec factories are not configured for ships of that tonnage or class. which means they still have to be at risk to be built and sold initially.

Lorewise; I don't think military command of each of the 4 factions are just gonna watch while capsuleers bring their own capital fleet into hisec.

Plus then it would really show how powerful we are, you lived under empire protection? Now live under the fear of a 200 man capsuleer capital fleet in orbit 23.5/7 that can do whatever it wants within the bounds of CONCORD

Simple solution when the first capsuleer capitals to highsec gate is broken through make the rats engage the people participating in the event, buff them to burner levels of difficulty and give them caps to deploy, basically like a burner mission incursion with NPC logis repping NPC's from time to time to make capsuleers die in droves, i would lose a navy mega going down in glory like that for us to lose at first and scrape a narrow victory at the end

Your point is valid, and to make it reality you just need to extend existing flags of "banned in empire space" that bombs and warp disruption field generators already have.

The only capital module I would allow are personal Armor Repair and Shield Boosters, but beside that all the weapon systems, all the siege and triage modules, all the remote shield / armor / capacitor trasmitters should be banned in empire, while the hull is not.

The only counter argument to this is "what if people use carriers to haul stuff without risking a gank in high sec?", but still people do it anyway in massively tanked JF, slowboating from A to B.