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EVE Trade Hubs: Jita's grandchildren
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Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#41 - 2014-10-05 00:54:38 UTC
Grave Digger Eriker wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
nah, it'll still just be jita.
Incorrect!!

Jita is only within 5LY reach of 2 lowsec systems, with MAX skills, that will be perma camped so JF pilots will not use jita with these changes.

Bye Bye jita

Conversely, Rens and Hek may well survive and funily enough they are in range of Amamake so PL are sorted.

I may not be understanding this correctly, but I don't think it matters if Jita is more than 5LY away from a low sec system since you don't jump straight to Jita anyways. Any lowsec system next to a contiguous high sec system can be used to get to Jita as the highsec jumps have much less risk and are much cheaper.
Vulxanis Viceroy
Vicarius Vitae
Khimi Harar
#42 - 2014-10-05 01:00:20 UTC
Just as a reminder, if you want me to add a station as a trade hub, please mail me the information! Station names themselves are preferred.

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Dwissi
Miners Delight Reborn
#43 - 2014-10-06 10:34:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Dwissi
I do agree with Derrick there - Jita is a bit like a drug since Eve has existed. There where some (or better few) reasons that Jita became THE trade hub to begin with. But even with every change CCP introduced the addiction of players to Jita never really changed - even if it didn't make any sense at all to go there. Its like there are players out there who's map solely consist of that one system somehow.

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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#44 - 2014-10-06 10:48:24 UTC
As for new hubs, they will probably emerge in stations that are close to a high to null sec gate
Vyl Vit
#45 - 2014-10-06 14:54:53 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Such things as this aren't planned. They happen.
Maybe I should have used all caps and boldface:

SUCH THINGS AS THESE AREN'T PLANNED! THEY HAPPEN!

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S'Way
State War Academy
Caldari State
#46 - 2014-10-06 14:56:43 UTC
Someone did this back in 2012, if you want to compare hubs from back then to now....

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1395195#post1395195

Might be able to make a more accurate list of hubs with actual numbers (like the 2012 lists) instead of just people throwing out system names, by asking the market discussions forum.
Zach Lemmont
Doomheim
#47 - 2014-10-06 16:57:05 UTC
Tash-murkon if i recall has a decently good market going for it, noticed it wasn't on your list Lol
Vulxanis Viceroy
Vicarius Vitae
Khimi Harar
#48 - 2014-10-06 17:32:19 UTC
Zach Lemmont wrote:
Tash-murkon if i recall has a decently good market going for it, noticed it wasn't on your list Lol


Tash-Murkon is a very broad term lol do you mean the region? The original system? If you want me to add it to the list, I require the station name so I know which you are specifically referencing.

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Jered Hakaaros
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2014-10-07 07:44:20 UTC
I guess he means the Kaalakiota Corporation Factory at Tash-Murkon Prime II - Moon 1, which is pretty much the trade center there.

As for nullsec regions:

- YA0-XJ is of course the goonies trade center for Deklein, with Mittanigrad still being active as well.
- 6V is still the hub in Fountain mainly for FA and allies.
- F-Y be the trade center of Providence and the Provibloc.
- GE-8JV is a new but pretty large trade hub for the Catch region and brave pilots. Of course the FAT hub there will never die too, as will the fighting hopefully.
- Whoever goes to Wicked Creek someday and has the docking rights may find trade at 1L-OEK.
- Vale of the Silent with the new Bastion Alliance prouds itself in TVN-FM.
- In Branch with FCON there is the big PVP hub at CS-ZGD, with minor PVE hubs at 3F- and the D4R- pocket.
- K-6 is of course here to stay as the Delve center of attraction.

There are some more ofc.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#50 - 2014-10-07 08:41:41 UTC
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Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#51 - 2014-10-07 13:47:40 UTC
So you're saying Jita is the only trade hub now.

You should get out more.
flakeys
Doomheim
#52 - 2014-10-07 13:50:52 UTC
THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE ...
















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flakeys
Doomheim
#53 - 2014-10-07 13:54:11 UTC
Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:
Zach Lemmont wrote:
Tash-murkon if i recall has a decently good market going for it, noticed it wasn't on your list Lol


Tash-Murkon is a very broad term lol do you mean the region? The original system? If you want me to add it to the list, I require the station name so I know which you are specifically referencing.



He means the system , tash is decent for casual traders as it doesn't have too much competition and has a healthy profit margin wich the traders amongst themselves keep that way unlike jita/rens/amarr .Offcourse for a buyer that means the market is reasonably expensive.



That said it also is a verry slow moving market but who knows it might get some more love over time.

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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#54 - 2014-10-07 16:05:35 UTC
pretending nobody knows where the trade hubs are.
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#55 - 2014-10-07 16:07:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Liafcipe9000
Solecist Project wrote:
Actually, with the latest industry changes I do believe that ...
... tradehubs will cease to excist within the next years ...
... and people will suddenly smarten up ...
... and start selling locally.


I do hope people will start using the direct trading feature more often. I never get to use it enough.

I think I might just start fitting catalysts for suicide ganking and give them away via direct trading. Pirate
Dinger
Task Force Delta-14
#56 - 2014-10-07 19:13:41 UTC
Pre-jump drives hell even pre-warp to 0 you usually found decent trade hubs in station systems close to the pipe entries on the outer empire borders. Few that spring to mind:

Torrinos
Orvolle
Stacmon
Malma
Agil
Esa
Oimmo

All memorable in their own right. Then of course there was always the centre of the known universe, aka Yulai, but the upcoming changes won't bring that back, which probably isn't a bad thing since to my knowledge they still haven't rebuilt the main attraction there.
San Ghasha
#57 - 2014-10-07 19:42:26 UTC
Perhaps I missed it, but I do not see anyone defining the term 'trade hub.' The discussion cannot be meaningful without clarifying terms. Yes, Jita will continue to be the trade center of EVE - but that has little bearing on the existence of other hubs. Relative Jita dominance is not mutually exclusive with other hubs.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#58 - 2014-10-08 03:45:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Rinn
Doc Fury wrote:
Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:
Question, why level 4 agents? o.O Jc


Same reason you rob a bank, that's where the money is.

money = lvl 4 mission whores


Lazy L4 mission runners.

Consider that they're aiming to maintain 60M ISK/hr or better while they're logged in. Even the two jumps from Lanngisi to Hek is enough to justify buying ammo for 690/round in Lanngisi rather than 630/round in Hek. The time to switch ships, fly to Hek, fly back, unload and change ships again is wasted money. If it takes six minutes for the round trip but saves less than 6M ISK, why bother? Sure, the smarter mission runner will buy a bulk load of ammo once a month, but the rest will simply restock 10k of each flavour of cruise missile (for example) and then restock when they run out.

I imagine similar types of calculations apply to null sec ratters and PvPers: you want your ammo now, and the stuff two systems over is double the price of the stuff in Jita, but Jita is an hour away.

Where this breaks down is when you are buying a "basket of goods" and one out of the hundred items you want isn't available locally. If you're going to make the trip to Jita anyway, why not get everything while you're there and skip the local market?

The smarter buyers will post buy orders locally at slightly-higher-than-Jita prices in order to stimulate supply.

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Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#59 - 2014-10-08 06:40:25 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
lol Hek, the red headed stepchild of Jita.




Jita is the red headed step-child of Jita.

I can't wait t see the day when the only people in that system are all the scammer trolls just trolling each other all day long.

It will make the next Burn Jita event soooooo amazing.

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Kuru
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#60 - 2014-10-09 19:01:45 UTC
I only buy locally-sourced organic modules