EVE New Citizens Q&A

First of all I apologize for posting on an alt, but my main is in an corp with a CEO with rage issues and I don't want any static from him. Second of all I hope 8 months is still "new" enough to qualify for posting on this board. I still feel like a newbie BTW I am a guy... this alt just happens to be female.

First the history then some questions:

I joined in February and stayed in my NPC corp until May. I enjoyed my "solo" time as I learned the most basic things. I had always intended to join up with other players but because I didn't know which aspects of the game I would like I held off for a while. Just about the time I was wanting to look for a corporation I was approached by a recruitment officer of a local (to Dodixie) corporation. After being interviewed, giving them my API and having a trial period I joined the corp. It was pretty good for about a week until the Alliance they were in exploded, then we were perma wardecced by mercs hired by one of the other corps in the ex-alliance that were mad at the corp I just joined. The series of mercinaries week after week hired were very professional and basically locked us down into stations. When we did try to mount fleets to fight back we would all be killed quickly. About 50 percent of the corp quit over the course of weeks.

The rest of us moved out to a high sec island (surrounded by low sec) to thwart the mercs. That was a huge pain because relocating everyone's stuff took weeks. Then we had to build up all new standings in the new area. The CEO in that corp decided to disappear for while and there was drama and in-fighting and it fell apart completely from one day to the next. I followed a few guys I had gotten to know on TS to another corp. The CEO from my ex-corp logged in to an empty corp, got very mad and used his extensive personal resources to wardec everyone into the ground. These high sec corps I am interested in are mostly industry, missioning, mining and exploration and when professional mercenaries show up in T3 cruisers they make short work of anyone not docked up. We were wardecced for 9 straight weeks and everyone lost about 50 percent of their wealth trying to (unsuccessfully) avoid the mercs. The only people who didn't lose ships are those that stayed docked up all the time.. and they basically disappeared one by one.

So the decision was made to move out of the area back to the "mainland". It is fairly complicated moving stuff through a lowsec pipe, even with a carrier to assist. I lost a $150mil cargoload to a Loki that lit me up trying to get to the carrier dock. (Not complaining, that is just Eve and I could have mitigated the risks better). Bottom line is that by the time we were moved back to the mainland we had lost more corp members who jumped ship to join other corps. Oh and the wardecs followed us. My CEO decided to fight back and we were crushed in an embarrassing fight where they kept us at range and we never even hit them. Two days ago the last wardec was over and there isn't much remaining of the corp and no one seems to be logging in. It looks like maybe 6 active people are left. The CEO sent out an e-mail rant about how much he has sacrificed for the corp and we are ungrateful and we better all start logging in or else. It seems that in recent weeks (if not months) the CEO is always yelling at us for :
- Not volunteering enough to run events
- Being stupid and losing ships
- Caring too much about personal wealth and not enough about the corporation wealth
- Saying anything in local
- Talking to anyone out of corp without a diplo
- Having a skill queue that does not benefit the corp goals

That is the situation, here are some questions:

- I have been in a corp under wardec about 14 our of the last 20 weeks. Is that the norm? When I use the corp finder I see large highsec corps that manage to get wardecced only 2-3 times a year.

- Is it always the policy in corps that if you undock during a wardec and lose a ship you are yelled at for "making things worse?" In other words is the logic that losing ships encourage extending the wardecs true and correct? This would imply that you sit in your station or not log into the game during the wardec.

- Do most corps have so many strict rules enforced through constant API monitoring? I understand the need to avoid a spy or corporate thief, but it is a little disconcerting when you get "in trouble" for something you could only know by inspecting your API.

- Is it possible to find high sec corps that really are about industry, mining, exploration, hauling and running missions? Who are not secretly yearning to be wannabe PvPers doing roams or having long term plans to "move to 0.0 someday". In other words full time carebears and proud of it?

I can't be alone is wanting to log in every night, join a TS channel, optionally join an incursion fleet or mission fleet, or just talk eve mechanics while I do my own thing. Sometimes coordinate on some industry, have a mining/beer night, talk ship fits, etc. Something fun and easy going? A corp with low drama but also with enough size and stability that it won't implode every time there is the slightest problem?

Thanks for reading this. I realize now this was way too long and boring for most, so I do appreciate anyone who had the stamina to read it all and respond.

Just going to answer these one by one to the best of my abilities.

1) There is no "normal" war decs usually come for a few reasons, 1) Someone in your corporation annoyed someone 2) People were paid to war dec you 3) The corporation was marked as an "easy" target etc.... many reason why people go to war. The cost associated with war decs is also based on number of players in the target corporation. There for the larger corporations might not be war deced that often due to the size.

2) Wouldn't say it's "normal" but usually if you give people kills they will want more and might want to keep the war dec going. Again everyone you meet will act differently.

3) This is a per-corp/alliance level. Corporations/Alliances don't need to ask for these but usually they do as for the reasons you mentioned. If you don't wish to give it to them then you don't have to it's entirely up to you and there are lots of corporations out there that might be that "strict". You can also view API logs to see how often people look at them. It's really a trust thing when it comes to APIs. The corporation is trusting you not to mess things up for the corporation and your trusting the corporation not to abuse your API.

4) It is possible but I couldn't tell you who they were since I don't know. I can tell you is to go to https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=265 and check out various corporations/alliances and see what they have to offer. Or make a post there yourself saying "these are my requirements" and see what corporations approach you.

Hope it helped a little let me know if you have any other questions!

some of your story sound vaguely familiar

for bears, no that's not normal to be consistently be at war.

no that's the hallmark of a crap corp, get out and find a new one
can you elaborate on this please?
yeah, plenty,
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Sure... here are some situations that seem weird to me:

Being told that they know I have enough ISK to build a certain PvP ship according to their published doctrines. Like I might want to only risk a T1 ship in an in-advised roam, but they want T2 ships. (This is in a nonPvP corp keep in mind)

Having comments made on TS about what I have under research or am currently manufacturing, as if it was common knowledge

Questioned about an innocent e-mail sent to an ex corp member

Being "caught" running missions during a wardec because my journal shows bounties

That is far from normal and they are overly paranoid.

What you could do...after the API check is just delete the API and tell them to stick it somewhere the sun never shines, it's non of their business what you are doing in EVE.




To give you an example from my time in EVE:


In the past one of the main Fleet Commanders in a null-sec alliance insisted that I had to train for ships "x" and "y" (keep in mind, I could already fly 3 other ships in the doctrine).

My response was simple:

Sure, I will do what ever you want, if you sent me a PLEX on every first day of the month. As soon as you pay for my account, you can decide how it's going to be used, not a minute before that.

He quickly went quiet and I never heard anything from him anymore.



Moral of the story: It is your game that you pay for. Play it in any way you see fit, not how someone else wants to play it.

This is a sign of very bad leadership. In fact it seems many of your problems stemmed from one angry guy in power. Finding a decent corp is a bit of a crap shoot but it's definitely worth it so I hope you can stick it out. There are many great corps out there that have the attitude you describe. Don't get too discouraged by the first couple tries.

Also to add about finding a pure mining / industry / mission corp.



Those types of corps try to keep as low profile as they can get, why...because if they throw out in the open everywhere they are only miners, mission runners etc. they are painting a target on their own hulls...

So they are around, they might be slightly harder to find. Don't be afraid to do a couple of missteps into corps that don't work out, we've all been there.

This is pretty much what we do out in Null sec. Instead of mercs we deal with more cohesive and serious blocs like NC. CFC, RUS and PL. As a result the pilots have learnt to co-operate in defense. Much nicer environment.

Well, running missions during a war with war target online, in a PvE fitted ship and not having back up is a bad idea.



I've ran missions in the past during a war, we just fleeted up with the corp and ran missions in PvP fitted ships. If a WT jumped us, good, we had a nice surprise for him in that case...