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However, this is true as well. Even though CCP has clearly stated (as shown in my previous post above) that they have quite clearly NOT abandoned walking in stations for good, it doesn't necessarily mean they will never change their minds. People change, situations change, and policies must change to reflect that.

Did you read the original post? Aelavaine was saying (I am paraphasing) that just because someone says "I'm stuffed, I could not eat another bite!" today, doesn't mean that they won't change their minds about the possibility of being hungry in the future.

Also,

are you repeatedly,

deliberately,

intentionally,

and purposely

ALWAYS missing this?

I love when people ignore certain factors because it damages their standpoint.

+1

I like the idea started in this tread.

Having read all the replies it is understandable that a purpose is asked for. It should allow for something more than the UI today, something that would make ripples going outside of the stations.

Having thought about what this purpose could be, I have some ideas.

One purpose for a new UI system would be in the interaction with other players who are in the same station as you, so that these places would be a meeting ground. The channels are currently the way of meeting, and when in a station it is in the local channel that this is possible, but it is not so "precise", it is also for the local system you are in as a whole. Today this serves as a purpose for communication of everything that is happening in the local system outside of corporations and alliances and except direct player to player.

It can be a hurdle to meeting players, outside of corps and alliances. Most communication happening is in a way "restricted" to be in and between corporations and alliances.

So a benefit of an in station open world UI would be a system to facilitate meeting other docked players in an informal way, one thing it could lead to are new acquaintances, but it could also open up other possibilities.

I imagine when docking at a station, from the captains quarters there will be a choice to go out into an "open world" UI, skipping the walking if you want to, where you can see all other docked players plus possibly npc's in a station's concourse or centre.

From the open-world UI it would be several different places you could choose to participate in. Walking would take you between these areas, that could be venues for meeting NPC's, bars, clubs, shops and trading offices, for example. Or you could skip the walking just selecting one of the places, directly from your quarters. These places in their own wouldn't be the most important thing here, it is what they facilitate.

The design of these areas itself would in many cases probably have to be different from the open world one and not even being linked to the concourse or centre, though it is here where you would simultaneously see all of the characters currently not being in a scene. Though meeting NPC's could be in the same third person view, engaging in local live trading/selling, could be a local dedicated trading channel (reminiscent of how the local channel works today when being in Dodixie, Amarr and the other trade hubs). If anything, this would free the local channel for general purposes, especially when being in one of these trade hubs, though for these places in particular I guess people mostly come to just to buy and sell.

(The section below needs to be referred in the light of some good points written in post 37)

Someone earlier said he would like more options for posture and gait, I agree in this. This would give at least partly a way to show how your character is feeling. Some common emotes of the least personal ones could also be implemented, I can think of two but likely more will work, one is saluting in the military way and the other already exists, which is sitting down. Running should not be an emote though, those in a hurry could instead choose the place they want to go directly from a menu. Like someone also said, actions works better than expressions, which is probably due to that they aren't so personal.

A system I have had in mind for the more personal expressions, is that when entering the open world UI, you can choose to fill out a line of text describing how you feel and another line what you are doing at the moment, though these can be changed at any time, used only sometimes or always left blank if you just want use time on the text you are communicating. If I choose to use these fields, I could write "worried" and "looking at a screen", then in the open world UI, if you walked up to me and faced in my direction, two lines of text would appear on top of your screen (which could be called the "Expressions and actions area") "She looks worried" or just the word "Worried", or if I am in your contacts list, you see my name "Aina Aideron looks worried", this would represent your impression of my expression. The other line you would see on your screen is "(she is) looking at a screen" (what I am doing at the moment). If you invite me to start a conversation and I accept, both you and I would get a window containing three places to write, one for expressions, one for actions and one for text (saying). Though if preferred one can choose to only use the text field. I could write in the expression field, "appreciative", the actions field "turns" and in the text, or say, field "Hi, thank you for coming up to me". When I press send, the text "She looks appreciative" or just "Appreciative" and "turns" would appear on top of your screen. The text for what I say appear at the same time but next to my character. Then depending on your response I would get an expression text, actions text and talk text to your character on my screen. The next time I enter an expression and action, and write something back and press send, my earlier expression, action and saying would be replaced on your screen with what I entered now. This would replace the private conversation text window while in the open world UI. It would also work with more than two people at the same time. It would also work with npc's.

This system would also open up some other possibilities. Apart from a meeting ground, another purpose of the new UI would be as a part of a political system that could involve among other things meeting npc's firsthand. Not primarily to receive missions or rewards from agents, but to gain influence with them and their corps. Meeting firsthand can often be more convincing.

A new UI system should be able to evolve. And it should perhaps also have to make sense in regard to Valkyrie and, Legion and Dust, though I don't know if there are any plans of merging EVE with them.

WIS as slated was to limited and had no impact on new Eden. Rather than having dust as a separate game it should be part of eve, even if you have to make a seperate team or integrate the current dust team to do it.

With this you could have landing on planets, fighting over land and fighting for stations as well as avatar based pve and a n almost seem less transistion between the two. As well as providing a more open world feeling to the dust experience.

Actually in dust it is an implant that does the mind transfer, not the suit so you could be killed without the suit and be ok.. since your avatar that leaves the ship has this implant.

So if you were to land on a planet and go roaming, your pod clone would remain in the ship which would be stored safe in your planetary hanger similar to docking in space.

You would get out of your ship but only in so much as you would transfer your mind from the pod clone into the merc clone which would be wearing a dropsuit. This could be in response to a contract for mercs to attack/defend an installation (be is a sov thing or faction warfare) or to hunt a drone infestation on a world, or some mission you have received from an agent.

As far as Walking in Stations - the feature would have far more relevance if you were fighting (inside) for the station in a sov war or a structure in a highsec wardec or pve exploring ancient structures, again dieing wouldn't matter as your clone has the mind transfer implant and ships could always have a Clone unit which allows you to choose where you want to respawn as long as you have a ship docked there .

Perhaps you have heard of dust514 it's a free to play mmoshooter by ccp. The infrastructure for said game is already in place and the game needs porting to a newer platform. CCP were intending to do just this a year back.

Expands on WIS by making it into dust. The majority of art assets already exist, the skilltrees would need moving to eve and the backend tech is already there. It's not my day job but given time I don't see the issue.

Good to see this conversation is still going.

Draws the most players? What? The current group of eve players don't want WiS. I am one of them. Outside the 10mins of novelty they become a tedious pain in the arse. We would turn it off and if we couldn't we demand a turn off option. When i want to converse with players, i do. In team speak or at fanfest, or just down the road at a real pub. A virtual congregation room does and achieves nothing.

If people wanted virtual bars and stuff. They wouldn't be playing eve. They would play second life. Or even worse. Star Citizen (not a MMO for the record).

And yet the amount of work is still staggering. How many artists and designers are going to be needed for all the modeling work? Yea its quite a bit of work. A lot. And no Dust51 whatever is not comparable. Since it is much smaller scale.