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[PROPOSAL] Support Avatar Gameplay As a Means of Increasing Immersion

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#1 - 2014-10-03 03:56:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Carrigan
Now before anyone cries foul and wants me tried for heresy, hear me out.

I am a player who enjoys EVE, especially the carnage in space. However, Walking in Stations could be implemented without taking too many resources from other development assets.

If a small team (1-3 Devs) were allocated to do piecemeal work on WiS per patch cycle, it could be expanded.

The primary focus of course would be the spaceships aspect of EVE. But here are a few suggestions just off the cuff.

- Decorum for CQ (interactable items, i.e. drinks, smokes, medal displays, etc)
- Being able to display certain loot items on the wall
- Expansion of CQ to include hangar, not just the gantry leading to your ship
- Gambling and vending machines in a promenade or concourse area
- Shops, agent hubs, actual Corporate Offices (and meeting rooms)
- Bars, clubs, et cetera


Anything the imagination can really manifest in a reasonable fashion could be implemented bit by bit. This way, in a year or two there would be expansive environments for those who wanted them, and you could still opt out of using it if you so choose. Hell, allow pilots to even interact with dust bunnies on station. I believe this reasonable, but as initially stated, space would still be the primary priority along with mechanics.

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#2 - 2014-10-03 18:26:57 UTC
Opinions?

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#3 - 2014-10-05 16:29:13 UTC
This is a valid option.

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General Abrams
Ghost Operations Tactical Unit
#4 - 2014-10-06 08:03:26 UTC
In any way you suggest this... and in a way I agree with you... People will just say, those 1-3 Devs could have been working on something else Spaceship related, especially in regards to broken stuff, which... there still is.

I've heard it suggested that CCP should do it... but not advertise that they are doing it... and at one expansion that has Other cool additions, slip this new content out... saying "Oh BTW, there's new CQ content too, Enjoy!"

Which TBH, would be the best way to handle it.
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#5 - 2014-10-06 08:28:08 UTC
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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#6 - 2014-10-09 04:23:09 UTC
General Abrams wrote:
In any way you suggest this... and in a way I agree with you... People will just say, those 1-3 Devs could have been working on something else Spaceship related, especially in regards to broken stuff, which... there still is.

I've heard it suggested that CCP should do it... but not advertise that they are doing it... and at one expansion that has Other cool additions, slip this new content out... saying "Oh BTW, there's new CQ content too, Enjoy!"

Which TBH, would be the best way to handle it.


That too is a valid point. At some point it would be nice to be able to take a stroll through the station and explore. See things, interact, et cetera.

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Demon-of-Razgriz
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-10-09 05:24:13 UTC
First I must say your really pushing and sound very needy constantly posting to bump it up.

However I would like to see something happen to that door that stops even immortal capsuleers but not something that extensive maybe a gathering area for all of eve to talk to dusties and pilots all in one place.

I do know I have put something to this extent on every single survey i filled out for this game for several years.
Demon-of-Razgriz
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-10-09 05:24:59 UTC
So I doubt it will happen any time soon.
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-10-09 07:19:06 UTC
+1

instead of having your devs recruited by RIOT you could give them something to work on Lol

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ArmyOfMe
Teddybears.
#10 - 2014-10-09 08:37:16 UTC
Im gonna support you on this one. Lets face it, for a lot of us the time spent online is spent docked up and just chatting. So in those regards WIS would actually be a nice change.

GM Guard > I must ask you not to use the petition option like this again but i personally would finish the chicken sandwich first so it won´t go to waste. The spaghetti will keep and you can use it the next time you get hungry. Best regards.
Ned Black
Driders
#11 - 2014-10-09 10:03:12 UTC
ArmyOfMe wrote:
Im gonna support you on this one. Lets face it, for a lot of us the time spent online is spent docked up and just chatting. So in those regards WIS would actually be a nice change.


I still say what I said before Incarna...

Walking in stations for the sake of walking is completely boring. People may do it once or twice to watch the scenery, but other than that they will sit in their ships and just put it on /ignore as they do about the captains prison... One of the first things I do after a fresh install is to move to hangar view and then never ever back to the prison cell.

Add fighting in stations, boarding stations and stuff like that and you have something interresting however.
Agatir Solenth
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-10-10 00:11:15 UTC
I've been waiting for this since they originally announced it. The ability to have an Avatar that could interact with other toons would be a boon for the RPing community.

I could see special player events that could start out in stations, and lead into space.

We could have player sponsored poker tournaments. (in game, not some side website)

It could be an additional resource for recruitment of new players. I know of a handful of MMORPG players that avoid EvE simply because they can't walk in stations. These same folks love to PvP, craft, and RP. However they won't commit to a game that only has the PvP and crafting. The fact that I can't them to try EvE due to the lack of a walking avatar is frustrating as hell.

Besides I'd love to be able to sit cloak spinning instead of ship spinning any day.
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#13 - 2014-10-10 02:40:45 UTC
Well, this is actually going better than expected. Thank you all for the input.

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Solecist Project
#14 - 2014-10-10 12:21:00 UTC
How about first they fix the beds.

Not only are they shorter than any of us ...
... there's no damn room for a second person!

Besides above or below, of course.....

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#15 - 2014-10-10 13:52:36 UTC
Never even thought about that. How about adding a bathroom/shower. Otherwise we will have some really smelly capsuleers.

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||
Solecist Project
#16 - 2014-10-10 13:59:38 UTC
Jack Carrigan wrote:
Never even thought about that. How about adding a bathroom/shower. Otherwise we will have some really smelly capsuleers.
I certainly do not smell like anything but pleasure ......

You may sniff ....
.... but contain yourself!


*raising my arm slowly towards you*

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#17 - 2014-10-10 16:10:38 UTC
Well played.

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Terenius Neo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-10-11 08:11:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Terenius Neo
Nice to see some talk on this topic going on again. The ideas collected here are maybe not all to new but actually enough to maybe again let one or two devs have again a second thought on the Avatar gameplay in Eve.

Expanding the captains quarters like mentioned here would be damn nice.

I was always a supporter auf walking in stations. CCP failed very with it in the Incarna release but that was when 2011?

Oh man, I would so badly have the possibility to use this bad to rest on it while browsing the market or chat. Come on at least that little extra and I do not even mention a pole with one of those exotic Gallente playing with it...
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#19 - 2014-10-11 17:12:50 UTC
Wouldn't be too bad.

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||
Flamespar
WarRavens
#20 - 2014-10-13 03:58:15 UTC
Yes. Open the door already. There is fun to be had on the other side.

It was announced at PAX Australia that the first multiplayer avatar areas to be opened in Star Citizen will be the social ones, and they are slated to be delivered next year.

It's annoying that CCP once dreamed of becoming an ultimate sci simulator, failed to deliver, and now a competitor is coming in to deliver what CCP cannot.

Fortunately the avatar stuff in EVE (what little there is) still looks far superior to what is currently in star citizen (especially the player characters), CCP still has a competitive advantage that they can capitalize on, should they choose to.

Given that CCP is more than willing to devote an entire development studio to a game that they would eventually abandon (World of Darkness). I think it is stupid that they won't assign a few devs to enriching their current game with station interiors.
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