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Alliances had a monopoly on Nullsec space

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somedudeinaship
Star Whorz
#1 - 2014-10-03 00:25:01 UTC

It's about time CCP made some changes that mixed things up! Can't wait to see the rental empires crumble, and the amazing battles that are about to ensue.

I bet their will be far more gate camps now as well.
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-10-03 00:34:55 UTC
What a new and exciting topic, good thing there are not any other threads open discussing this. Roll

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-10-03 00:42:10 UTC
The rental empires aren't going to crumble. They'll get a little smaller perhaps, but don't expect everything to fall apart.

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45thtiger 0109
Angry Miners Alliance.
#4 - 2014-10-03 00:44:42 UTC
somedudeinaship wrote:

It's about time CCP made some changes that mixed things up! Can't wait to see the rental empires crumble, and the amazing battles that are about to ensue.

I bet their will be far more gate camps now as well.



Really!!!! for some it will be good and for others it will stay the same.

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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-10-03 01:08:12 UTC
OP does not contain a lap dance.

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Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-10-03 01:26:44 UTC
An OCEANUS of tears

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Kaely Tanniss
The Conference Council
The Conference
#7 - 2014-10-03 02:09:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaely Tanniss
somedudeinaship wrote:

It's about time CCP made some changes that mixed things up! Can't wait to see the rental empires crumble, and the amazing battles that are about to ensue.

I bet their will be far more gate camps now as well.


I don't think it's going to quite work out like you think. I see alliances digging in and creating borders that can't be breached by smaller corps/alliances. The day of the big battles will end and no one will move from where they are. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. It only makes region defense easier for the larger alliances.

Though I agree some change was needed, I don't think the way they plan to go about it is the answer. I'm sure they want to implement it a little at a time, so if it doesn't work, they can bail out what would essentially be a sinking ship. Imho, this issue needs further thought and consideration..a LOT of it.

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Axel Sonen
#8 - 2014-10-03 02:43:50 UTC
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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2014-10-03 03:29:10 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
The rental empires aren't going to crumble. They'll get a little smaller perhaps, but don't expect everything to fall apart.


If these jump drive changes don't make them crumble then the incoming residency based sov mechanics will finish the job without a doubt. They might hang on for a year, living and fighting with old stockpiles and resources. But eventually they will become a thing of the past, thank god.

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-10-03 03:32:10 UTC
wont alliances always have a monopoly? since you kinda need one to own a system.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#11 - 2014-10-03 03:41:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Even after 7 years of watching CCP try ( and fail) to to 'encourage' people to do certian things, only to watch people do the exact opposite, I find it amazing that people are still naive enough to believe that these changes will work like they think they will.

How many examples do people need before they learn?
somedudeinaship
Star Whorz
#12 - 2014-10-03 03:43:42 UTC
Rowells wrote:
wont alliances always have a monopoly? since you kinda need one to own a system.



Well with Sov mechanics changing over the next several months that might not be true any longer.
Malprax
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-10-03 03:59:07 UTC
Umm hey whats the point of being able to take space away from the null sec coalitions if you can't Jump a gimp frieghter or rorqual far enough to get your hard won gains out.

It's dumb to think the 'rental empires' will pull any farther than 5 light years back from the lowsec borders. Everyone is going to be equally screwed by this.

Anyways there is a lot of people straight up unsubbing over this bs and their totally useless 5.5 bil skillbook implants and 130bil ships that are useless. So the real question becomes how do people get their fanfest money back if they aren't fans anymore?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#14 - 2014-10-03 05:19:45 UTC
I keep wondering what epic lore or event could be parlayed into a huge shakeup but I'm too much of a humorless **** to come up with any ideas.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-10-03 05:28:59 UTC
Malprax wrote:
Umm hey whats the point of being able to take space away from the null sec coalitions if you can't Jump a gimp frieghter or rorqual far enough to get your hard won gains out.

It's dumb to think the 'rental empires' will pull any farther than 5 light years back from the lowsec borders. Everyone is going to be equally screwed by this.

Anyways there is a lot of people straight up unsubbing over this bs and their totally useless 5.5 bil skillbook implants and 130bil ships that are useless. So the real question becomes how do people get their fanfest money back if they aren't fans anymore?


Hmmm, I'm surprised to see NC. complaining and unsubbing over this.

No I'm not. Did you get the hint of sarcasm?

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-10-03 05:39:24 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I keep wondering what epic lore or event could be parlayed into a huge shakeup but I'm too much of a humorless **** to come up with any ideas.


How about "God did it."

What? It seems to work on a huge proportion in reality, and in this case we'd be using it for fiction so it's even more justified.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#17 - 2014-10-03 05:44:22 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Even after 7 years of watching CCP try ( and fail) to to 'encourage' people to do certian things, only to watch people do the exact opposite, I find it amazing that people are still naive enough to believe that these changes will work like they think they will.

How many examples do people need before they learn?

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#18 - 2014-10-03 05:45:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Malprax wrote:
Umm hey whats the point of being able to take space away from the null sec coalitions if you can't Jump a gimp frieghter or rorqual far enough to get your hard won gains out.

It's dumb to think the 'rental empires' will pull any farther than 5 light years back from the lowsec borders. Everyone is going to be equally screwed by this.

Anyways there is a lot of people straight up unsubbing over this bs and their totally useless 5.5 bil skillbook implants and 130bil ships that are useless. So the real question becomes how do people get their fanfest money back if they aren't fans anymore?

You do realize players used to occupy basically the same amount of space before jump freighters existed, and we managed to do logistics and build stuff, export goo, and blow each other up just fine back then. The changes are a return to planning, group effort and sanity. For some players these changes do in fact mean their cozy play style is ending, and it angers and confuses them. The ones paying or collecting rents, probably more so.

Anyone ragequitting before the changes are finalized, probably didn't want that sub anyway.

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Ren Oren
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-10-03 05:46:18 UTC
Malprax wrote:
Anyways there is a lot of supers/titan/cap pilots from the mega coalitions straight up unsubbing over this bs and their totally useless 5.5 bil skillbook implants and 130bil ships that are useless.



Fixed it for ya, don't worry this solves the Super/Cap proliferation problem

I think of it as a forest fire. The old trees that were blocking the sun light and taking more rain from the potential seedlings have been burnt down, and their ashes will help fertilize the ground for a new generation of trees.

Embrace the change
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-10-03 05:50:02 UTC
somedudeinaship wrote:
Rowells wrote:
wont alliances always have a monopoly? since you kinda need one to own a system.



Well with Sov mechanics changing over the next several months that might not be true any longer.

Im now bristling at excitement at stealing a back end system and pasting my name on it.
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