Wormholes

There has been general fixes for RR NPCs - I've not looked at the C4 ones but the C5 ones have quite decent RR capabilities when working properly - you need a minimum of around 700dps (applied) to break the reps in a C5.

Ouch if my maths is right the last wave on the Frontier Command Post with RR actually properly working can keep the defenders up against almost 1k dps (applied) - so obviously don't go for those first - and theres a few other waves where the weakest target would be tanking 200-300dps.

I assume with the new RR assistance in the new burner missions they've tweaked RR NPCs AI generally including sleepers.


EDIT: This is just assumption at this point as I've tested nothing - but I know they have general RR NPC changes either implemented or work in progress I'm not sure how far they have got or how wide reaching the changes are.

meaning, average isk/h going even lower :/

You can hear the camels back snapping right across wormhole space with this latest "straw"
Remember there is nothing especially heavy about the last straw...........

For the sake of arguing, you're going to have the hardest time applying damage to a frig as they're fast and small sig. Also ecm, it's been a while since I checked but i'm vaguely sure an unbonused racial jammer is enough to block out a sleeper. Armour scorps were a thing before they were used for crashing duties.

Also (again just for the sake of it) no one ever said that all sleeper sites must be solo passable.

Truth...

The only issue is that the rewards do not stack well when you bring in more than 1 character in C4 holes. You can't blitz them due to large spawn ranges like you can C5+ and there's no extra isk up for grabs by bringing in more players like in C5+. C4's really are the runt child of WH space for anomalies.

I would say it stacks infinitly better since you get nothing if you can´t finish the sites.
But I really do not get how you can loose money if you run the sites with more people, so more dps, so you are faster, so you make more isk.
Just look at people like f.e. Nash here whose corp has had a c4static forever and they never had problems with iskies.

Look, I think the biggest issue here is people running questionable doctrines are now in a jam. What has not changed is that you can warp to zero on any site, apply full dps to wherever the sleepers spawn, and clear sites in under 7 minutes (or far better). 3 pilots, even if triple-boxing can do it easily and reliably. So yeah, CCP screwed the pooch on communicating the change, go figure. But in the end there is no actual gameplay issue and certainly no reason a corp cannot survive farming C4. Adapt, or leave, the choice is yours. But until the last Marauder changes, C4 were definitely not "solo" territory except in very unique cases, so I really don't know what all the crying is about across the forums. People need to stop with the "always been that way" mantra because except for a very small number of us, C4's were generally considered crap and nobody ran them consistently. I have lived in systems with a static C4 for the past 3.5 years, and most of the time correcting people that they were wrong on them being crap ISK. Most people crying about this change are recent Marauder "converts" so please give it a rest because your gameplay arguments have little merit.

And truly, I am not trying to **** on anyone's parade, but the amount of simply wrong information or opinions without basis around this "issue" is staggering.