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New and busted vs old hotness.

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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#1 - 2014-09-30 05:51:05 UTC
Hyperbole Nexuse - new and busted


Old Hotness - hyperbole nexes.



Lord Bastion New and busted

Old Hotness - Lord Bastion



So what ever happened to these unique environments? It's places like this that existed around eve that convinced a lot of people to go on an adventure. To find these places and see what was there. A lot of beauty that came with EvE has disappeared. She is capable of getting her beauty back, but why wont anyone help her I would rather ship spin at some of the old and busted places with the beautiful environments than in a plain and boring station.





/Free the Gallente Quafe station

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.

Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-09-30 07:32:13 UTC
+1 for reinstating the Quafe girl.
Solecist Project
#3 - 2014-09-30 09:07:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
CCP is killing their game from the inside, that's happening.
They are cluless about the meaning of emotional connection
and reduce EVE to a pointless game where no one feels any connection to it anymore.

And telling them is no use, because they lack people who understand what this means
and rather hire brainiacs who think they are smart. One of these rather feelingless people
call it "flavour" and proves his cluelessness.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Solecist Project
#4 - 2014-09-30 09:32:44 UTC
Btw ... that first link is empty.
Intended?

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#5 - 2014-09-30 10:47:53 UTC
I remember the environment with huuuuge, green tornadoes or something like that, it was completely out of place in a space game, I could only assume that some dev had bad LSD trip.
Django Askulf
Black Rebel Death Squad
#6 - 2014-09-30 10:50:26 UTC
Visited Hjoramold as a complete newb, after seeing an old sightseeing video on youtube. Left dissappointed.
Solecist Project
#7 - 2014-09-30 11:03:09 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
I remember the environment with huuuuge, green tornadoes or something like that, it was completely out of place in a space game, I could only assume that some dev had bad LSD trip.

Are you talking about that one mission where one gets killed when he spends too much time in it?

It *was* completely out of place, but it looked freaking AWESOME!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Marc Durant
#8 - 2014-09-30 11:05:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Marc Durant
What, you mean to say that the new, updated and improved graphics are actually worse than the original? That's been true since they started working on it. See webs, lacking moving bits on ships, cynos etc etc etc. This is because the new and improved devs are a lot better just not as awesome as the old ones.

Yes, yes I am. Thanks for noticing.

Solecist Project
#9 - 2014-09-30 11:38:38 UTC
Marc Durant wrote:
What, you mean to say that the new, updated and improved graphics are actually worse than the original? That's been true since they started working on it. See webs, lacking moving bits on ships, cynos etc etc etc. This is because the new and improved devs are a lot better just not as awesome as the old ones.

Not to forget the horrible explosions that last only a brief moment,
compared to the old epic explosions everyone on grid simply could not possibly miss.

Another great example of how CCP killed a bit of emotional depth.

The old explosions were actually satisfying to see.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#10 - 2014-09-30 11:59:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
We can't get planetary interaction involving seeing the world behind a window in a station in EVE. They completely abandoned it for EVE. Same as WIS and avatar exploration. That was a great opportunity for a crazy, artsy stuff.

But the quality of models and some textures were updated, not really a resolution, just cleanliness and updated models.
They did get rid of the completely crazy stuff, but it is what keeps some people too in a game, lets be fair, some craziness in a space game, not boring stuff.
I vote for "entertainment" stations, broken moons, more epic explosions, comets orbitting the sun, and more life in a space, like some outposts with blinky lights, neutral haulers and miners around DED places in low sec. If you shoot them, incapacitate their outposts, you will lose sec status in empire, you will spawn faction militia and you will be yellow on the overview for everyone else.
Some graphics, some gameplay.
But no huuuge otherworldly tornadoes, or clouds and trees in space, if you want something epic, I would advise more broken, huge planetoids in data and relic sites, remains of space catastrophes from ancient times, as stations broken in half (and you could fly inside them, dammit), and comets ocassionally visible in some systems.
Space is empty for the most part, let the small pockets of life be alive, or epicly dead.
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#11 - 2014-09-30 20:28:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Obsidian Hawk
The other major problem is the game is run by the 0.0 people. They dont care about anything in the game as long as it doesnt affect their ability to rat in supers. But their csm members keep getting voted in.

Brimg back immersion!

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.

Miyammato Musashi
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
#12 - 2014-09-30 21:51:24 UTC
I don't think they are going to get this memo. I stopped posting [edit: almost] altogether in topics like this. I think we are in for a period of contraction. CCP doesn't usually act until things are really bad. It's only kinda bad now.

I am a meat popsicle. 

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#13 - 2014-09-30 22:05:13 UTC
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
The other major lroblem is the game is run by the 0.0 people. They dont care about anything in the game as long as it doesnt affect their ability to rat in supers. But their csm members keep getting voted in.

Brimg back immersion!




I would not put that entirely on the denizens of nullsec though.

The root of the problem is the obsession with ISK or stats (or both). Anything new to the game that is not directly and with laserbeam focus fueling the min/maxer tendency to improve ISK or stats is demonized and denigrated with the usual rage about the game catering to carebears, going the way of WoW, etc. Everything to these people is "muh stats".

And if their influence could be accounted for, I would not say they entirely win. Certainly the graphics of the game ship-wise have improved, though the "feel" of space suffered somewhat.

Ship trails for example was something a lot of players, even the "muh stats/ISK" crowd wanted, so it's not all one-sided.

Few people will cheer the removal of the Pleasure Hubs. I don't know what SJW (old school religionist or modern day misandrist) move caused that to happen.

Meanwhile, that old trailer of the capsuleer exiting his pod with the narrative saying something like "sometimes you have to do things yourself" (paraphrasing here) is gone, because the min/max crowd screamed about space Barbie. The depth of that and the potential is gone.

And finally, the chronicles, which added further depth to the game, are fewer and far between. The live events are now scheduled, planned and canned, and more about stats than backstory.

Yeah better times are behind us. These days I'm reading the works of Poe rather than playing. I was here for the science fiction (Poe actually and in great detail has a story describing a moon flight using a balloon that I could not put down) but I fear I may leave sooner than later in disappointment.

If all I wanted was a game, or a scoreboard, I would have played something else for 8 years.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Vyl Vit
#14 - 2014-10-01 02:35:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyl Vit
They've got their agenda, and schedule. They've got their "vision". I'm sure they're aware some of what they've done has a lasting appeal to some. I'm sure they're aware moving into this future will require some digital high-stepping. What it was will certainly not be what it will be. What will it be? They'll get to that ASAP I'm thinking. As you've all said, you would if it were you....

...RIGHT?

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#15 - 2014-10-01 04:46:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Obsidian Hawk
Vyl Vit wrote:
They've got their agenda, and schedule. They've got their "vision". I'm sure they're aware some of what they've done has a lasting appeal to some. I'm sure they're aware moving into this future will require some digital high-stepping. What it was will certainly not be what it will be. What will it be? They'll get to that ASAP I'm thinking. As you've all said, you would if it were you....

...RIGHT?



I would actually. Personally I believe immersion is a key factor in player retention. You know that phrase that was made popular "I was there", that holds true in a lot of respects. Personal belief, if a player really feels like they are there they will want to be there more often regardless of good or bad experiences.

They day I built my first battle ship, my mega (built aug 2006), which i still have today, i played the imperial march as i undocked it from oursulaert III fed navy assembly plant. Since ours was a great noob system at the time with lots of mission runners i finally felt like i could play with the big boys after undocking that ship like i alone could take on the universe. Of course i took it to all those sites, docked it etc to make it look good wherever i could. I felt like i was actually there.


That why i will always fight for immersion in this game. It's the one thing that got me to subscribe in the first place.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.

ColdCutz
Frigonometry
#16 - 2014-10-01 04:51:46 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Marc Durant wrote:
What, you mean to say that the new, updated and improved graphics are actually worse than the original? That's been true since they started working on it. See webs, lacking moving bits on ships, cynos etc etc etc. This is because the new and improved devs are a lot better just not as awesome as the old ones.

Not to forget the horrible explosions that last only a brief moment,
compared to the old epic explosions everyone on grid simply could not possibly miss.

Another great example of how CCP killed a bit of emotional depth.

The old explosions were actually satisfying to see.
But changing the explosion effects automatically means that they're an improvement, despite what the plebeian player-base says. The Devs' jobs are done for another five years.




*Dev's you've got to redo the explosions AGAIN PLZ*
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-10-01 06:29:31 UTC
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
Hyperbole Nexuse - new and busted

Old Hotness - hyperbole nexes.



Lord Bastion New and busted

Old Hotness - Lord Bastion

So what ever happened to these unique environments? It's places like this that existed around eve that convinced a lot of people to go on an adventure. To find these places and see what was there. A lot of beauty that came with EvE has disappeared. She is capable of getting her beauty back, but why wont anyone help her I would rather ship spin at some of the old and busted places with the beautiful environments than in a plain and boring station.

/Free the Gallente Quafe station

I agree, those sites were awe-inspiring eye-candy which helped make Eve excellent. CCP probably removed them since most of them were mission based, mainly Cosmos.

I should have taken more screen shots while running them. Actually, I wish I had made some FRAPS videos while running those sites. They were mesmerizing, totally alive with ambiance.

My collection :

Guild Wars (1 of 4)

Lord Manel's Mansion

Lord Manel's Mansion - Different View

Asteroid Station

Another Asteroid Station

Recon (3 of 3) Toxic Cloud

Lord Bastion

The Hyperbole Nexus

Red Rock Outpost

Serpentis Science Lab

Spatial Rift To Aether Drone Queen

They even had some cool things show up unexpectedly, such as :

Black Monolith

Warning Sign

This Space For Rent (Quafe Sign)


DMC
Marc Durant
#18 - 2014-10-01 08:27:03 UTC
It's like they're trying to create iEVE; very bland and you need to press just 1 button to play, while being terrible.

Yes, yes I am. Thanks for noticing.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#19 - 2014-10-01 09:23:31 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

They even had some cool things show up unexpectedly, such as :

Black Monolith

Warning Sign

This Space For Rent (Quafe Sign)


DMC

The monolith is still around (and looking very muchambient)

So is the warning sign.
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#20 - 2014-10-01 16:51:48 UTC
We need to get the word out and have more people join in on this there are a lot of people who remember this that dont speak up we need to tell them to speak up.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.

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