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The Development of the Cluster

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Khalm Hasal
#1 - 2014-09-30 03:17:41 UTC
I have a twofold question for participants in The Intergalactic Summit. What do you see as the broad trends for the likely future of the cluster and what do you wish that development were to be? Whether you choose to respond concerning development as it directly relates to capsuleers or from a different perspective is entirely up to you. Or perhaps you do not think the particulars of changing trends is important and you have other underlying emphasis from which you are situated. It is your perspective I am most interested in.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-09-30 05:42:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Khalm Hasal wrote:
I have a twofold question for participants in The Intergalactic Summit. What do you see as the broad trends for the likely future of the cluster and what do you wish that development were to be? Whether you choose to respond concerning development as it directly relates to capsuleers or from a different perspective is entirely up to you. Or perhaps you do not think the particulars of changing trends is important and you have other underlying emphasis from which you are situated. It is your perspective I am most interested in.


Let's start with our ships first. Our ship is crewed, and yet the crew is very poorly represented. You would think that someone who keeps dying in our bullshite fights would get much more recognition. I think they deserve more recognition.

Next, colonies. How many capsuleers here know what exactly went on in the colonies we established beyond what is being produced? I think we need to build awareness on that.

And there's also the issue of Jita. There's a 'no-sleep' policy going in public spaces that I thought was nonsensical. It's also a pain in the arse to get any good cup of coffee there. The Caldari do not seem to believe in coffee and coffeeshops. At least the tea is good.

And finally, all the tellies in the capsuleer quarters in New Eden are fixed to one channel. Even in a baseliner home in a Matari settlement has access to literally thousands of channels, half of which are from the Fed! Seriously! Fix it! Otherwise I will hang out in a coffeeshop watching their telly instead.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-09-30 05:50:00 UTC
Khalm Hasal wrote:
I have a twofold question for participants in The Intergalactic Summit. What do you see as the broad trends for the likely future of the cluster and what do you wish that development were to be? Whether you choose to respond concerning development as it directly relates to capsuleers or from a different perspective is entirely up to you. Or perhaps you do not think the particulars of changing trends is important and you have other underlying emphasis from which you are situated. It is your perspective I am most interested in.

For the sake of everyone alive, and everyone who will live after us...

The Federation must be destroyed.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#4 - 2014-09-30 07:43:56 UTC
Capsuleers?

Fickle as a feather. I really don't see the point of including them into any grander motions of schemes; even something as wide as 'development of the cluster'.
The nullsec capsuleer groups will probably keep their little bickering ad infinitum, and any development they can bring to the cluster is pretty self-centered to start with.

As for the wider scheme of development of things in the next few years or decades:

Intaki Syndicate claims the currently occupied warzone of Placid from the now weakened Federation.
Angel Cartel does the same with Molden Heath.
Region of Solitude establishes its own government and detaches from the Federation.
Ammatar Mandate continues to desiccate under Ardishapurite rule.

Just a few I could think of in a short moments notice.

  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc

Jade Blackwind
#5 - 2014-09-30 09:32:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Blackwind
Depends if it's short-term or long-term.

Short-term, the independent capsuleer entities continue to grow and inevitably begin to fully expand into the imperial territory, at first through the exploits in the CONCORD and baseliner regulations. The empires - openly or not - embrace the new technology, with most of the ruling elite and core of the armed forces becoming "immortal" infomorphs, as opposed to the isolated cases of today.

Then, it would be wise to expect the new and improved infomorph empires with their new navies to attempt to crush the major independent capsuleer blocs and scatter or subdue the rest. At first, it might seem that the Aria Jenneth's scenario takes place; but by that point, the difference between the Amarr Empire and, say, Goonswarm would be only in ideology, numbers and organization. Loyalist structures like PIE or (sadly, defunct) EM will be included into the new order of highsec ( *snicker* ), losing their imaginary "free roaming demigod" status and becoming common paramilitaries on a tight leash. There'll be mass clone arrests and terminations in imperial stations, etc.

What remains of the capsuleer blocs becomes fully independent from the "old world", establishing full-scale planetary and stargate infrastructire and essentially, becoming empires themselves. Many will scatter through the wormholes and uncharted space beynd New Eden. The billions and billions of common planetside dwellers would never turn into infomorhs, of course.

When I look at the things long-term (intelligence and memory implants are really a fascinating thing), the danger of the infomorph or quasi-infomorph singularity becomes apparent. Sansha Nation, Sleepers and Rogue Drones are not just mindless things to shoot at: they are a glimpse into our own future. The Nation has failed, but there'll be other, more subtle projects and emergent entities, and, if humanity won't be destroyed before, sooner or later one of them will succeed. The spread of nanite-based technologies is especially dangerous in that regard - and I must note, that nanites are already used by both rogue drones and sansha to infect and assimilate human hosts.

That final singularity, that cluster-spanning, million-year old nanite cloud Overmind beyond our comprehension (and also beyond anything what we would call sanity) - that's probably what awaits us in the end of our history.

But who cares.
Kyllsa Siikanen
Tuonelan Virta
#6 - 2014-09-30 11:04:20 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

And there's also the issue of Jita. There's a 'no-sleep' policy going in public spaces that I thought was nonsensical. It's also a pain in the arse to get any good cup of coffee there. The Caldari do not seem to believe in coffee and coffeeshops. At least the tea is good.


No one but us can make a proper cup of coffee, let alone kaf'fak.

This obviously proves our superiority, and may or may not be a component of The Sebiestor Plot™

“Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.” 

― C.S. Lewis 

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-09-30 11:33:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:

And there's also the issue of Jita. There's a 'no-sleep' policy going in public spaces that I thought was nonsensical. It's also a pain in the arse to get any good cup of coffee there. The Caldari do not seem to believe in coffee and coffeeshops. At least the tea is good.


No one but us can make a proper cup of coffee, let alone kaf'fak.

This obviously proves our superiority, and may or may not be a component of The Sebiestor Plot™


Coffeehouses that serve a decent cup of coffee are everywhere in Federation space. It should also be noted that the owners of these coffeehouses are frequently Matari (any bloodline).

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#8 - 2014-09-30 23:58:38 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Khalm Hasal wrote:
I have a twofold question for participants in The Intergalactic Summit. What do you see as the broad trends for the likely future of the cluster and what do you wish that development were to be? Whether you choose to respond concerning development as it directly relates to capsuleers or from a different perspective is entirely up to you. Or perhaps you do not think the particulars of changing trends is important and you have other underlying emphasis from which you are situated. It is your perspective I am most interested in.

For the sake of everyone alive, and everyone who will live after us...

The Federation must be destroyed.

Ah, Kimmy, always good for a joke...


On a more serious note, I see more of the same. Sure we will get a few superficial changes here and there, and maby there will come a day when I can walk out the door of my quarters instead of having to crawl out through an air duct. But capsuleers will still shoot at each other, miners will continue to whine about having to tank their vessels, and goods will continue to be produced.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Raphael Ordo
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#9 - 2014-10-01 07:42:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Raphael Ordo
In the best of worlds, capsuleers that have learned the truth of our late Emperor Heideran VII and the legacy he left in this world, the Pax Amarria, will continue to spread its word of a future peace throughout the cluster. More and more will come to understand its significance and how His word can be established in all our societies.
The golden words is bound to spread.

Furthermore, I thoroughly believe that the rumoured and future upgrades to the Templar implants, that once made our ground forces immortal, will prove to add a whole other spectrum to what we know and how we view the on-going wars in the cluster today.
As capsuleers, we regard ourselves as the culmination of mankind. I believe this will change in many ways as the years pave the way forward.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-10-01 07:55:04 UTC
Raphael Ordo wrote:
In the best of worlds, capsuleers that have learned the truth of our late Emperor Heideran VII and the legacy he left in this world, the Pax Amarria, will continue to spread its word of a future peace throughout the cluster. More and more will come to understand its significance and how His word can be established in all our societies.
The golden words is bound to spread.

Furthermore, I thoroughly believe that the rumoured and future upgrades to the Templar implants, that once made our ground forces immortal, will prove to add a whole other spectrum to what we know and how we view the on-going wars in the cluster today.
As capsuleers, we regard ourselves as the culmination of mankind. I believe this will change in many ways as the years pave the way forward.


Speaking of the Pax Amarria, I occasionally retrieve a copy or two from wrecks floating about in deep space. However, for some odd reason, I was not really able to read the copies. Just flipping the hardcover was impossible. What's up with that?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
#11 - 2014-10-01 08:29:11 UTC
::Captain Ephesianos looks over the random feed delivered via Henry's algorithmic social media engineer::

"Henry?"
00Yes00
"Draw up Chauncy's homework." Ottom asked, gravspurs on the stealth Hounds consol.
00Social...?00
"Social Paradigms and Low Survivability Rates." The Black Op. Battleship Specialist stood to pace the short deck. "I'll take it through my new implants."

...local WiFi...feed...connected...request 00Desired Outcome00

'Chauncy's abridged views on ship efficiency and crew management.' Ottom mentally focused to the constructed intelligence. A White Noise Stetzerizer filtered his subconscious chatter.

...results...every crew member should carry a shipboard card and a origin I.D.. Souls should be calibrated to station control and then turned off as to avoid interference during docked combat. If the pods are to be used they do not need to be in the mid slot of the consol just attached to biometric readers so the new bio gel deck sealant pushes the crew as opposed to securing them during maneuvers. Fighter pilots must log into their own gunnery accounts and strafing keys override A.I. controls while locked on...searching...

'end program'

00interested?00

"Space drama. Delete it." Ottom sat back down as the hum of the cloaking field continuously stabilized. Other than that it was a silent night.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-10-01 15:21:21 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Raphael Ordo wrote:
In the best of worlds, capsuleers that have learned the truth of our late Emperor Heideran VII and the legacy he left in this world, the Pax Amarria, will continue to spread its word of a future peace throughout the cluster. More and more will come to understand its significance and how His word can be established in all our societies.
The golden words is bound to spread.

Furthermore, I thoroughly believe that the rumoured and future upgrades to the Templar implants, that once made our ground forces immortal, will prove to add a whole other spectrum to what we know and how we view the on-going wars in the cluster today.
As capsuleers, we regard ourselves as the culmination of mankind. I believe this will change in many ways as the years pave the way forward.


Speaking of the Pax Amarria, I occasionally retrieve a copy or two from wrecks floating about in deep space. However, for some odd reason, I was not really able to read the copies. Just flipping the hardcover was impossible. What's up with that?

I would recommend to buy a new book and open it as it should be, not to try to do this with burnt and melted down slabs.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-10-01 15:43:40 UTC
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:

And there's also the issue of Jita. There's a 'no-sleep' policy going in public spaces that I thought was nonsensical. It's also a pain in the arse to get any good cup of coffee there. The Caldari do not seem to believe in coffee and coffeeshops. At least the tea is good.


No one but us can make a proper cup of coffee, let alone kaf'fak.

This obviously proves our superiority, and may or may not be a component of The Sebiestor Plot™

I have no idea what kaf'fak is, minmatar, but I can bet that I can make the best cup of synthetic coffee in the whole damn station.

Besides that, when I was a kid and stayed in the monastery, we did a perfect coffee-like drink from roots of a blue flowers. It had strong and thick taste, had stimulating effect like coffee, was very good for your health and skin, and it was said that even small kids can drink it, unlike coffee.

You see, minmatar, not only you can make coffee.
As we say, cross the river before you laugh at the current.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#14 - 2014-10-01 16:30:39 UTC
There's nothing wrong with giving coffee to children in my experience. It's not ideal, but the positives outweigh the negatives by far.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2014-10-02 01:22:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Diana Kim wrote:
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:

And there's also the issue of Jita. There's a 'no-sleep' policy going in public spaces that I thought was nonsensical. It's also a pain in the arse to get any good cup of coffee there. The Caldari do not seem to believe in coffee and coffeeshops. At least the tea is good.


No one but us can make a proper cup of coffee, let alone kaf'fak.

This obviously proves our superiority, and may or may not be a component of The Sebiestor Plot™

I have no idea what kaf'fak is, minmatar, but I can bet that I can make the best cup of synthetic coffee in the whole damn station.

Besides that, when I was a kid and stayed in the monastery, we did a perfect coffee-like drink from roots of a blue flowers. It had strong and thick taste, had stimulating effect like coffee, was very good for your health and skin, and it was said that even small kids can drink it, unlike coffee.

You see, minmatar, not only you can make coffee.
As we say, cross the river before you laugh at the current.


Ah, but our coffee is natural-grown whose source comes from beans that require roasting and grinding. Can you roast and grind like we can? Can you? CAN YOU?

Also, I was 'baptised' with a shot of espresso. I started joining the communal drinking ceremony every morning when I was five. Of course I do not drink espresso until I was of age. It's diluted coffee but it still has a kick for a small child. Who says children can't drink coffee?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#16 - 2014-10-02 03:19:38 UTC
We should not fight about coffee, but come together, united, as coffee enthusiasts and bask together in its richness.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-10-02 03:40:48 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
We should not fight about coffee, but come together, united, as coffee enthusiasts and bask together in its richness.


But Kim is not one of us.

Also, I concur. I raise my steaming mug to you.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-10-02 13:03:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Elmund Egivand wrote:

Ah, but our coffee is natural-grown whose source comes from beans that require roasting and grinding. Can you roast and grind like we can? Can you? CAN YOU?

Of course I can!
Don't question Caldari superiority, minmatar!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-10-02 13:26:57 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:

Ah, but our coffee is natural-grown whose source comes from beans that require roasting and grinding. Can you roast and grind like we can? Can you? CAN YOU?

Of course I can!
Don't question Caldari superiority, minmatar!


Grind me a sample and send it to me for analysis.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Tabris Katz
The Forgotten Children
#20 - 2014-10-02 13:43:36 UTC
The condition the coffee industry is little of concern to me. As long as I have tea to steep I am content.

As for the development of the Cluster there is one matter that greatly concerns me as it should concern everyone, capsuleers and non-capsuleers alike. I am refering to Angel Cartel, Blood Raiders, Guristas, Sansha's Nation, Serpentis Corporation, and even the rogue drones! The Angel Cartel continues to flood the empires with illegal and harmful drugs developed by the Serpentis. Guristas have been attacking shipping lanes through out the cluster. Sansha's Nation to this day still launches incursions accross the cluster, capturing inhabitants to integrated into his "Perfect" society. While the Blood Raiders attack anyone they can (mainly focusing on capsuleers) to use in their perverse blood rituals. Even the rogue drones are contiually contructing new hives causing chaos for all those that tread to close.

The Cluster as a whole seems to be barely able to contain all theats presented by these destructive elements. Sansha's incursions have become more aggressive, burner have been destroying all but the strongest and are only growing more daring, we became aware of the ghost sites about a year ago, and all the pirates continue to produce equipment and ships that put any developed by capsuleers or the empires to shame.

I am concerned for all of these things and for much much more. We still don't know what else is out there. What new threats they are planning to unleash upon us, or who else is about imerge as a new threat.
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