EVE General Discussion

In Null Interceptors are Explorer's best friend.

Yes, you need Archeology 5 ideally, otherwise it's kind of painful without the CovOps ship bonus; that is, you can do without, just be prepare to blow up a can here and there and not be upset about it. You don't need perfect scanning skills; with Astronometrics 4 and its child skills to 3 I have yet to run into a site in Null I could not scan down.

On the flip side, no more fear of bubble camps.

There's a number of interceptors which can be fit to align in under 2 sec without using the rigs (you can then fit either Archeology or Scanning rigs to give yourself a bit of breathing room). 2 sec align time means you can't be locked on a gate by even an insta-Thrasher/Stiletto/whathaveyou unless you seriously screw up.

If you spam D-scan while hacking (which you should be doing regardless of what you're flying) then you're just about 100% safe at a site with an interceptor as well. The only thing left, then, is smartbomb camps... don't know if there's a worthwhile solution for those but in my personal experience they are exceedingly rare these days (at least in my part of Null).

Hope it helps.

So you re telling me there is a way to escape unscratched...To be honest,i will give up until there is fairplay. I do think the way you do,and i always warp and Dscan a suspicious polulated system...but there is nothing to gain from that,when your desination changes by the draggbubble..and there is no way a MWD will save me,never did,never expected it to!

I ve been searching for vids and tutorials about the problems i am facing,and i have yet to find an answer.And currently i m watching yours :P

I personally suck at it, but I know more than a handful people who do well escaping camps. So I'd go for yes, you're not smart enough to do it.

I dont have any expirience camping...i ve seen things only by the eyes of an explorer,i know that much...i wish i could do that.

On my main I regularly do 60+ null sec jumps in my cloaky astero doing sites.

1) Micro Warp Drive. I have NEVER got caught at a gate bubble using one of these.
2) ALWAYS cloak. When you enter a system, warp to a celestial and deploy probes then IMMEDIATELY cloak.
3) Scan down all Wormholes as well as data and relic sites while cloaked. Wormholes are an easy getaway. Warp to it, google the type and you'll soon find out where it takes you. Bookmark it in case you need a quick getaway. Wormholes scare null-sec people.
4) Use the statistics to make sure the systems you're flying into have the lowest amount of jumps in the last hour possible. Plan a route using waypoints around this idea.
5) If there is ANYONE in local just move on, if someone comes in when it's empty, burn and cloak, they will more than likely pass through.

Another thing.. choose your location in null sec carefully, there are places where you can fly around for days on end and rarely run into anybody.

Think renter space :)

Thanks a lot guys...That does cheer me up a bit..i mean the fact that i m not alone... I lost my 4th astero today,400 mil worth with the cargo..hours of harvesting,hard work,risk and cunning. Feels like all are in vein,i ll follow your advice,find a corp that assists and asks for explorers..maybe my luck will change...

Thanks again

Ok here are some tips....

Some were already mentioned


- Starmap

Use it... Aoid any system with KILL or any system with players online. Avoid them if possible. See a gate bubble camp? Avoid the system. The Starmap is your best friend. Learn to love it and those are the 2 most important steps.

- Wormholes

Dont find an entry to null with noone in system? Probe down a wormhole entry/exit - They are not usually camped. I usually find a pipe in/out NULL within 2 max 3 wormhole systems - Bookmark - Bookmark - Bookmark!!!!! Dont leave system WH System one unless you found the exit you wanted - You dont want to probe down all those Sigs AGAIN

- Base of operations

Use a mobile depot if you are trying to probe with folks in system ;) - Fit expanded cargo holds for importing / Exporting the depot + loot. Maybe use a blockade runner for loot retrival?

- Data Sites

I tend to ignore them since I usually dont use a depot... The loot uses WAY to much cargo space

- Stabs

Getting tackeled? Think about dual stabs. They SUCK since your targeting speed / range takes a huge hit. I dont personally like them i try to fit other escape options

- Covert Ops

Train for Covert ops. It is cheaper to train than archeology 5 and you get a +5 VS bonus to both Data and Relic sites. And you get a covert Ops cloaking device ;)


- NULL is scary?

Join OUCH - A Corp thats purpose is to train you NS Survival (They do PVP, but they limit you to use T1 Frigs ONLY)


- 20 Mill loss

Aehm... I wouldnt even consider going home with 20 M - I fly around in NULL untill i have like 500M or so (Like i said - ignore data sites)

Hope that helps

P.s.: Covert ops... Try it
P.p.s: "Probes" are cheap (T1 Explo Frigs)


P.p.p.s: Moving a good haul of 500+ Mil to Jita? In a frig that gets blown up in 1 Shot? Use a frighter service with collateral to give that risk to someone else

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To the OP: I can fully understand the fact that sometimes in EvE you get the feeling that everything is stacked against you or everyone is out to get you (well ok, this is EvE, everyone is...). That said, if you take that to the forum, expect that people not only are going to give you advice (as has happened, and very good advice at that), but also are going to point out to you were you went wrong. Except that, be cool about it please. Good luck in your endeavours!

Here's tip that might be useful. Wormholes. Fly low sec. Scan down wormhole to null. Hop in. Same thing if you are in null and carry valuable cargo. Seek wormholes to low sec. But watch out, sometimes wormholes to null can be bubbeled and camped by alts of bears who farm isk nonestop.