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Add variable damage types "Barrage" ammo
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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#1 - 2014-09-26 14:02:40 UTC
My english is bad so I dont how to explain it, I hope you get what I mean.
As title says I propose add Thermal and EM damage type Barrage ammo.
I wont fix ACs but it would help them.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2014-09-26 14:06:57 UTC
do ac's need healp?

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afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-09-26 14:08:58 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
do ac's need healp?


Dunno, I stopped using them and went to rails instead Pirate
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-09-26 14:10:44 UTC
Haha, no.

We don't need another weapon system that can do all damage types.
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#5 - 2014-09-26 14:28:14 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
Haha, no.

We don't need another weapon system that can do all damage types.


Remove ACs?

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#6 - 2014-09-26 15:12:13 UTC
why?

why not just use EMP or Plasma?

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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#7 - 2014-09-26 15:34:15 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
why?

why not just use EMP or Plasma?


Because of the **** range

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#8 - 2014-09-26 15:46:01 UTC
then use lasers!

what if i want ranged AC's with kin and exp damage?

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#9 - 2014-09-26 16:26:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
If you want EM damage with good range, use Proton.

If you want thermal damage with good range, use Nuclear.

...at least, I think Nuclear does thermal damage; I never use those long-range ammos.

If you want Kin/Exp with good range, that should be Carbonized Lead.

ACs were pretty good until the TC/TE changes. As projectile turrets and tracking mods had been rebalanced back in Dominion around the idea of being used together, modifying the tracking mods did unpleasant things to ACs.
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#10 - 2014-09-26 17:30:18 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
If you want EM damage with good range, use Proton.

If you want thermal damage with good range, use Nuclear.

...at least, I think Nuclear does thermal damage; I never use those long-range ammos.

If you want Kin/Exp with good range, that should be Carbonized Lead.

ACs were pretty good until the TC/TE changes. As projectile turrets and tracking mods had been rebalanced back in Dominion around the idea of being used together, modifying the tracking mods did unpleasant things to ACs.



The ammo types you named both give optimal range bonuses, not falloff and they both do no damage. I want to do some damage at good range which ACs have always been about until TE nerf.

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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#11 - 2014-09-27 21:03:29 UTC
BUMP FOR GOOD IDEA NEEDS RECOGNIZE

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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#12 - 2014-09-27 21:15:17 UTC
The ammo you are looking for already exists: it is called Scorch.

Train another race. Not everything in Eve needs to be homogenized.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Bruder Deranius
Scrapmetal Unleashed
#13 - 2014-09-27 21:58:06 UTC
This?

Every T2 weapons system has something similar, but it isn't implemented for a reason called balance. I won't get deeper into detail, because that will lead to another "why my race weapons system is the weakest" discussion.

Instead I say "yes please, the 3rd T2 ammo, but for all races" and hope, someone will find a way to balance that... P
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#14 - 2014-09-28 02:04:46 UTC
Nah, scratch that!

I have got a much gooder(er) idea, let ditch all long range turrets and increase the range of all short range once by 100% except airconditions.

Airconditions needs to be range increase by 5000% to finally be able to shot system wide from one gate to another.

All the poor barbarians will rejoice.

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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#15 - 2014-09-28 11:50:46 UTC
Bruder Deranius wrote:
This?

Every T2 weapons system has something similar, but it isn't implemented for a reason called balance. I won't get deeper into detail, because that will lead to another "why my race weapons system is the weakest" discussion.

Instead I say "yes please, the 3rd T2 ammo, but for all races" and hope, someone will find a way to balance that... P


Im not calling for a new t2 ammo, Im calling for something like Javelin HAM ammo.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#16 - 2014-09-28 15:03:13 UTC
We can call it Scoped Domination EMP/Fusion/Phased Plasma! And here comes a pssssshhhh idea! Add it to *wait for it* lowsec exploration sites!

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#17 - 2014-09-28 16:42:51 UTC
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Bruder Deranius wrote:
This?

Every T2 weapons system has something similar, but it isn't implemented for a reason called balance. I won't get deeper into detail, because that will lead to another "why my race weapons system is the weakest" discussion.

Instead I say "yes please, the 3rd T2 ammo, but for all races" and hope, someone will find a way to balance that... P


Im not calling for a new t2 ammo, Im calling for something like Javelin HAM ammo.


Maybe... use Javelin HAMs, then?