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So scamming is banned now? What about insulting other players?

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Diamond Zerg
Taking Solo Away.
#1 - 2014-09-26 03:01:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Diamond Zerg
In the wake of the recent TOS change regarding harassment, I would like to ask a few questions.

Firstly, is social engineering, lying, scamming etc now considered harassment or unfair targeting of certain players?
What about trash talk, rivalries, and generally insulting other players? Are those things considered harassment?

Personally I believe the game is made much better by the existence of villains.
The issue at hand is: Is it ok to have enemies in EVE? Is it ok to express that verbally, have rivals that you continually target, and generally gain resources at another person's expense?

If EVE is the kind of sandbox that it is advertised as, the answer to all those questions should be "yes".

Please STOP the uncivil responses everyone, this is a valid, reasonable point of discussion and you are going to get my thread locked.
Hi.
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-09-26 03:02:26 UTC
No and no. Go away.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-09-26 03:03:44 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
No and no. Go away.

You say no, but ban waves say otherwise.
Eleanor Wish
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-09-26 03:09:34 UTC
You may as well go for it and stop asking. As Falcon put it, there's no set standard and the line of ok behavior or not-ok behavior moves depending on how CCP staff members feel like enforcing the rules at any given time of the year.
Angeal MacNova
Holefood Inc.
Warriors of the Blood God
#5 - 2014-09-26 03:09:36 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Lugia3 wrote:
No and no. Go away.

You say no, but ban waves say otherwise.


Good to hear.

http://www.projectvaulderie.com/goodnight-sweet-prince/

http://www.projectvaulderie.com/the-untold-story/

CCP's true, butthurt, colors.

Because those who can't do themselves keep others from doing too.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#6 - 2014-09-26 03:15:07 UTC
Read this and IBTL.

tl;dr: Don't associate with whoever CCP considers undesirable and you'll be fine.

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Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-09-26 03:17:22 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
Eleanor Wish wrote:
You may as well go for it and stop asking. As Falcon put it, there's no set standard and the line of ok behavior or not-ok behavior moves depending on how CCP staff members feel like enforcing the rules at any given time of the year.

Which is a pretty big problem.

Crumplecorn wrote:

tl;dr: Don't associate with whoever CCP considers undesirable and you'll be fine.

And this is an even bigger problem, and a much more recent development.

Snip, Please refrain from profanities - ISD Atomic Dove
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#8 - 2014-09-26 03:21:18 UTC

Did you bring this up with your CSM OP?

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-09-26 03:30:05 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Read this and IBTL.

tl;dr: Don't associate with whoever CCP considers undesirable and you'll be fine.

How would you know who is undesirable... like new players only ccp knows who they are and they won't tell us who they are.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#10 - 2014-09-26 03:36:54 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
How would you know who is undesirable... like new players only ccp knows who they are and they won't tell us who they are.
Oh, you know, you're right. How could we possibly tell? Gosh, if only CCP had some way of saying "leave and never come back". Oh well.

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Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
Seneca Auran
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-09-26 03:41:16 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:

Did you bring this up with your CSM OP?



Careful, asking the OP questions could be considered real life harassment. There's a real person behind that avatar you know.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#12 - 2014-09-26 03:46:32 UTC
Seneca Auran wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Did you bring this up with your CSM OP?
Careful, asking the OP questions could be considered real life harassment. There's a real person behind that avatar you know.
Are you accusing Doc of harassing someone? That's harassment you know!

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Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#13 - 2014-09-26 03:46:43 UTC
I should invest in Torch and Pitchfork futures.





Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-09-26 03:49:21 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I should invest in Torch and Pitchfork futures.


Nah, the ones from 2011 are still being recycled.
Seneca Auran
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-09-26 03:49:26 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Seneca Auran wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Did you bring this up with your CSM OP?
Careful, asking the OP questions could be considered real life harassment. There's a real person behind that avatar you know.
Are you accusing Doc of harassing someone? That's harassment you know!


Are you accusing me of accusing someone of harassing someone? That's harassment!
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#16 - 2014-09-26 03:56:32 UTC
Seneca Auran wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
Seneca Auran wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Did you bring this up with your CSM OP?
Careful, asking the OP questions could be considered real life harassment. There's a real person behind that avatar you know.
Are you accusing Doc of harassing someone? That's harassment you know!
Are you accusing me of accusing someone of harassing someone? That's harassment!
Now you're harassing me too! Somebody the RL Harassment In Space On Forums Police!

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Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#17 - 2014-09-26 04:01:54 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Seneca Auran wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
Seneca Auran wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Did you bring this up with your CSM OP?
Careful, asking the OP questions could be considered real life harassment. There's a real person behind that avatar you know.
Are you accusing Doc of harassing someone? That's harassment you know!
Are you accusing me of accusing someone of harassing someone? That's harassment!
Now you're harassing me too! Somebody the RL Harassment In Space On Forums Police!



I feel harassed and threatened by you being harassed and your harassment of others
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-09-26 04:03:12 UTC
With all of the harassment in this thread, it's likely that we'll all be banned, just for having posted in it.
Damen Apol
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-09-26 04:13:38 UTC
I was going to be banned for viewing the topic, figured I may as well post.
Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2014-09-26 04:31:14 UTC
Damen Apol wrote:
I was going to be banned for viewing the topic, figured I may as well post.



You'll never know because someone in Iceland doesn't want to tell you the rules.
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