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The Miners of New and Gankers

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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#1 - 2014-09-25 00:24:48 UTC
The Miners of New Eden in order to maintain a constant supply of ore and minerals to the market do request that a permanent Concord presence be established in each belt of a system that has a security status of .5 or .6. The Miners of New Eden understand that Concord cannot operate freely and those wishing to opt in for the increased security of two Concord Frigates in the belt they are mining in would pay an additional 15% in ore material re-processing fees to pay for the service.
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-09-25 00:29:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
What?

Your best idea yet, nerf mining.

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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-09-25 00:55:50 UTC
I see your still spewing nonsense.

Could not help but notice that it seems you have not rejoined a corp since you were perma decced.

Life is tough huh?

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Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-09-25 01:40:45 UTC
I'm not sure if he is asking for more ganking or what?
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-09-25 01:45:02 UTC
No.

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#6 - 2014-09-25 01:50:34 UTC
He's scared and wants more protection in the belts by concord for a fee on reprocessing. What a joke.

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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#7 - 2014-09-25 03:00:39 UTC
Unregulated mining has the potential to release harmful substances into the soil air and water Mission 2016 proposes that governments enforce regulations on companies and use cutting-edge technology to reduce the damage from mining-related sources As more mines open in countries with varying levels of environmental protection it is increasingly vital that safeguards established by the Strategic Minerals Association SMA are in place before operations proceed see the international regulation page

Environmental Damages of Mining

Open pit mining

Open pit mining where material is excavated from an open pit is one of the most common forms of mining for strategic minerals This type of mining is particularly damaging to the environment because strategic minerals are often only available in small concentrations which increases the amount of ore needed to be mined

Environmental hazards are present during every step of the open-pit mining process Hardrock mining exposes rock that has lain unexposed for geological eras When crushed these rocks expose radioactive elements asbestos-like minerals and metallic dust During separation residual rock slurries which are mixtures of pulverized rock and liquid are produced as tailings toxic and radioactive elements from these liquids can leak into bedrock if not properly contained

Underground Mining

Underground mining has the potential for tunnel collapses and land subsidence Betournay 2011 It involves large-scale movements of waste rock and vegetation similar to open pit mining Additionally like most traditional forms of mining underground mining can release toxic compounds into the air and water As water takes on harmful concentrations of minerals and heavy metals it becomes a contaminant This contaminated water can pollute the region surrounding the mine and beyond Miranda Blanco-Uribe Q Hernandez Ochoa G & Yerena 1998 Mercury is commonly used in as an amalgamating agent to facilitate the recovery of some precious ores Miranda et al 1998 Mercury tailings then become a major source of concern and improper disposal can lead to contamination of the atmosphere and neighboring bodies of water Most underground mining operations increase sedimentation in nearby rivers through their use of hydraulic pumps and suction dredges blasting with hydraulic pumps removes ecologically valuable topsoil containing seed banks making it difficult for vegetation to recover Miranda et al 1998 Deforestation due to mining leads to the disintegration of biomes and contributes to the effects of erosion

In situ leach ISL mining

ISL mining has environmental and safety advantages over conventional mining in that the ore body is dissolved and then pumped out leaving minimal surface disturbance and no tailings or waste rock World Nuclear Association 2012 There is no ore dust or direct ore exposure to the environment and a lower consumption of water is needed in the mining process International Atomic Energy Agency [IAEA] 2005 However the strong acids used to dissolve the ore body commonly dissolve metals in the host rock as well The fluids remaining after the leaching process commonly contain elevated concentrations of metals and radioactive isotopes posing a significant risk to nearby ground and surface water sources IAEA 2005 Additionally the low pH of ISL mining wastewater can result in acidification of the surrounding environment

Heap Leaching

Environmental issues with heap leaching are centered on the failure to keep process solutions within the heap leaching circuit Release of toxic heap leaching fluids into the environment can affect the health of both the surrounding ecosystem and human population Reichardt 2008 Water balance is crucial in heap leaching projects because of the possibility of the overflow of solutions containing toxic concentrations of heavy metals after a heavy rainfall or rapid snowmelt Norman & Raforth 1994 In some cases cyanide is used to extract metals from oxidized ores and the resulting leach ponds have caused significant wildlife mortality including the deaths of about 7613 animals between 1980 and 1989 at cyanide-extraction ponds in California Nevada and Arizona Eisler 1991

Brine Mining

Brine mining involves extracting and evaporating the brine solutions to remove harmful elements and compounds Gruber et al 2011 potentially releasing them into the environment The drilling and transport of brine solutions can disrupt existing ecosystems and well casings pipelines and storage tanks are subject to corrosion due to the high salinity content of the solutions that they are exposed to which can lead to leaks and contamination of adjacent bodies of water New York State Division of Mineral Resources 1988 Currently there is no economically plausible plan to clean up contamination of an aquifer by sodium chloride and harmful concentrations of chloride inhibit plant growth and can cause fish kills Division of Mineral Resources 1988

Specific Contaminant Materials

Radionuclides

All REE-bearing minerals contain low levels of the radioactive isotopes that can become concentrated in mine tailings Radionuclides are released as dust during mining or from exposed waste rock stockpiles where they are least containable and mostly airborne Radiation can also leak into the ground and nearby water sources after they have been separated into tailings if the tailings are not stored safely Once radionuclides are in an ecosystem they accumulate in plants where the higher concentrations are ingested and ascend the levels of the food chain Paul & Campbell 2011Radioactive contamination has become such a problem that monazite mining has been banned by China and the United States has imposed strict regulations effectively accomplishing the same Schuler Buchert Liu Stefanie & Merz 2011
Dust & Metal

When companies break up materials during mining the dust can release a variety of heavy metals commonly associated with health problems As dust...

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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#8 - 2014-09-25 03:03:50 UTC
u can spawn concord in ur belt by shooting a ship there. its actually a really OLD tactic that people thoght wud stop people being able to ggaknk in their blet while they did their minning but it didont work i can make poor typed post with no punctooatn too

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#9 - 2014-09-25 09:03:40 UTC
I don't think that CCP can be bribed with in-game currency. Try Icelandic krónur maybe.

And stop pretending that you speak for all miners. You speak only for yourself.

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Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-09-25 09:04:21 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
Unregulated mining has the potential to release harmful substances into the soil air and water Mission 2016 proposes that governments enforce regulations on companies and use cutting-edge technology to reduce the damage from mining-related sources As more mines open in countries with varying levels of environmental protection it is increasingly vital that safeguards established by the Strategic Minerals Association SMA are in place before operations proceed see the international regulation page

Environmental Damages of Mining

Open pit mining

Open pit mining where material is excavated from an open pit is one of the most common forms of mining for strategic minerals This type of mining is particularly damaging to the environment because strategic minerals are often only available in small concentrations which increases the amount of ore needed to be mined

Environmental hazards are present during every step of the open-pit mining process Hardrock mining exposes rock that has lain unexposed for geological eras When crushed these rocks expose radioactive elements asbestos-like minerals and metallic dust During separation residual rock slurries which are mixtures of pulverized rock and liquid are produced as tailings toxic and radioactive elements from these liquids can leak into bedrock if not properly contained

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Lady Areola Fappington
#11 - 2014-09-25 11:34:53 UTC
Alpha fleets are a thing, you know....


Also, as duly sworn representative of the Mining Barge Manufacturing Guild, I'd like to counter-offer a 15% tax on barge sales to the pirate factions for the ability to permanently station Burner style 'rats in highsec belts.

It's only fair, less ganking would stomp on my business model, and that's ~not right~.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-09-25 13:01:37 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
permanently station Burner style 'rats in highsec belts.



That would be awesome.

Also, I would like to be able to fleet with CONCORD for a small tax fee. You know, since CONCORD is now for personal use and not a game mechanic.

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Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#13 - 2014-09-25 13:37:29 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Insane drivel


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Bronson Hughes
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#14 - 2014-09-25 13:44:39 UTC
I question your authority to make such a proposal on behalf of the "Miners of New Eden". My corpmates and I mine in New Eden regularly, yet we never cast a vote for you to be our representative. Who made you our representative?

Judging from the relative stability of the ore/mineral market I'd wager that the minerals are flowing just fine without this additional CONCORD protection. All this would amount too is a method of CONCORD to scam miners out of mineral profits. Don't you think those profits would be better spent elsewhere?

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Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-09-25 13:53:43 UTC
I know for a fact that some CODE players mine on alts. I doubt there are many of them, but I am very much certain that your claim to represent "The Miners of New Eden" has no validity whatsoever. You are nothing but a small insignicant group of miners that need to HTFU and adapt to the game you chose to play.

Furthermore, the fact that minerals have flowed freely since the inception of the game suggests that it will continue, regardless of what you may think.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#16 - 2014-09-25 16:03:43 UTC
Shouldn't the OP's absurd request be in F&I rather than C&P?

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Iain Cariaba
#17 - 2014-09-25 17:45:22 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Shouldn't the OP's absurd request be in F&I rather than C&P?

Apparently you don't know of Dryson and his tinfoil hat crusade to nerf CODE. Look into his posting history. Some of the best laughs I've had came from Dryson posts. The freighter glitch to avoid CODE. gate camps is epic in its hilarity.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#18 - 2014-09-25 18:03:17 UTC
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#19 - 2014-09-25 18:17:58 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
The Miners of New Eden in order to maintain a constant supply of ore and minerals to the market do request that a permanent Concord presence be established in each belt of a system that has a security status of .5 or .6. The Miners of New Eden understand that Concord cannot operate freely and those wishing to opt in for the increased security of two Concord Frigates in the belt they are mining in would pay an additional 15% in ore material re-processing fees to pay for the service.


ER.... wut?

If you really want to pay 15% of your income to someone to sit in your belt and look dangerous then I bet you can find lots of "real" players who would do that for you. Turning this into a game mechanic would be a horrendously bad idea on every level.

This is EVE online, friend. If someone is stalking you, then you simply need more friends than they have. That's the way this game works. If you don't have friends, join a corp/alliance and insta-friend a whole bunch of people.

T-
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#20 - 2014-09-25 18:32:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
DrysonBennington wrote:
The Miners of New Eden in order to maintain a constant supply of ore and minerals to the market do request that a permanent Concord presence be established in each belt of a system that has a security status of .5 or .6. The Miners of New Eden understand that Concord cannot operate freely and those wishing to opt in for the increased security of two Concord Frigates in the belt they are mining in would pay an additional 15% in ore material re-processing fees to pay for the service.
I wonder if he's noticed the almost permanent Concord presence at highsec gates, especially in places like Uedama, which does absolutely bugger all to prevent people suicide ganking things, at those self same gates.

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