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Developing my trucker alt
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Saul Varinus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-09-21 08:40:21 UTC
I've got 3 alts. This alt, I specifically am training it to haul stuff. Due to RL obligations It's going to be a year or two before I'll have the time to be a part of a Corp. When I do start finally getting involved in a corp i plan on getting involved in one that likes to mine in low sec systems or any other dangerous places. Because of this I also have what I call my "fighter alt" and I have what I call my "miner alt".

But my "trucker alt"(the one i'm using to make this post) I'm training it to be able to fly and master the biggest baddest ship I can find to haul stuff.

After exploring the marketplace I came across a jump freighter called the Charon. It's got the biggest cargo capacity i've ever seen in EvE. Because of this I'm now training this alt for that, while using my other two alts to make the ISK needed to pay for the skills. Of course i'll never fly this ship unless I have other guys in a corps to give me an armed escort, lol.

So my question is this: When it comes to hauling stuff, especially ore, is the Charon the "Ultimate Ship" to train for? Right now I got a Miasmos because of it's amazing ore capacity but I'm just using that ship when solo mining. I have a desktop and a laptop where I use my miner alt to mine and the cargo ship to haul stuff to the ore back and forth to the station.

Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-09-21 11:14:02 UTC
Charon's not a jump freighter. It's a regular freighter. The jump freighter variant of the Charon is the Rhea.

Freighters have the largest cargo holds, but they're slow. Very slow. And they can be gank targets in highsec. Freighter in lowsec is probably a dead freighter.

The 'ultimate' hauling ship is the one that does what you need. Small, valuable cargo - blockade runner. Massive volumes of lower value stuff - freighter. Tanked to hell and back - probably an Orca. Smaller amounts of ore - Miasmos. Logistics runs to lowsec/nullsec - Jump Freighter
Asuna Baros
Applied Anarchy
The Initiative.
#3 - 2014-09-21 17:18:24 UTC
Saul Varinus wrote:
Of course i'll never fly this ship unless I have other guys in a corps to give me an armed escort, lol.



It wont matter if you have an escort or not. The way hi-sec ganks work just doesnt allow for enough time for anyone to save you. You have 30 seconds in .5 security before concord shows up and blaps the attackers and usually you dont have much more time than that to live with 25~ catalysts pumping their DPS into you.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-09-21 18:02:45 UTC
Asuna Baros wrote:
Saul Varinus wrote:
Of course i'll never fly this ship unless I have other guys in a corps to give me an armed escort, lol.



It wont matter if you have an escort or not. The way hi-sec ganks work just doesnt allow for enough time for anyone to save you.


What you want are a couple of webbing ships accompanying you and, potentially, a link ship.
Otto Dodge
Eldorado Exploration Expedition
#5 - 2014-09-23 07:38:00 UTC
I am specifically trained to fly haulers, and I can mine fairly well when I am not hauling.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Otto_Dodge

This should give you a good skill plan for a truck driver.

I fly all race T1/T2 industrials. I spend most of my time in Deep Space Transports and Blockade runners. These are much more practical than a glacial speed freighter.

Most of the time your loads will fit into something much smaller than a freighter. I reluctantly fly one when it is required. I only trained one race freighter even though I could easily train them all, but the skill books are a bit costly for a ship class that I avoid when ever I can.

Jump Freighters are quite a leap, and would be another few million SP to get into, and there is the 2.5 billion you would have to come up with for the skill book and the ship.

Like others have said, "escorts other than a recon with a web bonus are useless", even logistics can't save you from a dedicated gank.

Use a scout instead. Look ahead on where you are flying into, and park up at a station if things look fishy. You will only know fishy by experience.

Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-09-23 11:05:29 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Asuna Baros wrote:
Saul Varinus wrote:
Of course i'll never fly this ship unless I have other guys in a corps to give me an armed escort, lol.



It wont matter if you have an escort or not. The way hi-sec ganks work just doesnt allow for enough time for anyone to save you.


What you want are a couple of webbing ships accompanying you and, potentially, a link ship.


To expand on this, there are a couple of ways you can go. Your webbing escort can fly a Serpentis ship such as the Daredevil (with bonuses to the strength of webs), or a ship with bonuses to the range of webs (the Minmatar recon cruisers, the Huginn and Rapier, have the best web range bonuses of any ship out there, and can fit multiple webbers). Once your freighter has started accelerating to warp, the escort locks on and activates the webbers (make sure they're either in the same corp or have an active duel declared, or Concord will take an interest), and that will basically slingshot the freighter right into warp.

Set up right, one "tugboat" escort should be plenty.

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