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}( Padesar Uls --- Announcing the new Khanid News Corporation

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Indira Harashani
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#21 - 2014-09-19 13:44:20 UTC
Delightful. I will make my way over shortly, then.

Lady Indira Harashani

Holder of the Kheryskova Archipelago, Kihtaled IV

Darsena Izuma
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-09-19 14:09:14 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
So.... Why would they publish an article with no intent other than saying "Hey! Look how bad this groups doing compared to this one?" Aside from obviously pointing out where money could be made, thus helping the federation... If you want them to publish something to help the Gallante Federation's market, by all means support it

First of all, for educational purposes.
There is too many propaganda going on, that depicts Federation with its ideals not just as 'not bad', but even as good. Luckily, their propaganda lacks facts, and just back references to gallentean morals, according to which their ideals are good. Bad thing, that this propaganda fills all media.

With professional business press like Mr. Ulaannar is organizing, the real facts could be provided that will crash all groundless gallentean propaganda, and will teach peoples of New Eden how the real situation looks like.


Kimmy will never be able to wrap her mind around the concept that different people, in different places, might have come up with different ideas about how to do things - and that even though some of those ways might be different than how she does things, they might actually still work, and work well, for those people.

For someone who cries so much about oppression and her people's right to follow their own path, she sure is adamant about insisting on the path that others must follow.

Fedo are not what they seem to be.  Welcome to Night Vale.

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#23 - 2014-09-19 14:35:12 UTC
Daamal Ulaannar wrote:
Today Padesar Uls publishes its business plan. Please use this Galnet link to navigate to the business plan. On that same page you may reserve and purchase shares. Please support this revolutionary effort to bring holistic data usage to the forefront of every serious individual or corporate business strategy.


Sold.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Darsena Izuma
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-09-19 14:42:53 UTC
To the OP: this seems like a very worthwhile undertaking. I plan on returning to civilization this evening. Once I am safely docked, I shall look into your business plan, and perhaps reserve some shares. Best of luck to you.

Fedo are not what they seem to be.  Welcome to Night Vale.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#25 - 2014-09-19 15:25:42 UTC
I will say I hope your endeveor the best, hope I didn't derail it too much.....
Daamal Ulaannar
Padesar Uls
#26 - 2014-09-19 17:44:43 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
I will say I hope your endeveor the best, hope I didn't derail it too much.....


Not at all. Healthy debate is important.

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Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#27 - 2014-09-19 21:39:05 UTC
Crosspost from MD:

Received 50 shares at 10k a piece.

A pleasure doing business with you and I hope we'll get to be part of something that'll grow into greatness.

If my enthusiasm seems... unseemly, I just have a thing for cute little startups. Just have to watch out to see if they'll widdle on the deck.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-09-20 11:34:16 UTC
Darsena Izuma wrote:

Kimmy will never be able to wrap her mind around the concept...

I would better say, that gallenteans will never learn to respect, and will never be thus respected.

You, Ms. Izuma, is the perfect example, why federals shouldn't be allowed to speak in media.

And remember one thing, your words don't represent me, as they are utter groundless lies.

Your words represent YOURSELF.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Indira Harashani
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#29 - 2014-09-20 18:06:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Indira Harashani
I am sure it would interest Miss Kim to know that the current list of confirmed investors - to my knowledge - in Padesar Uls includes (categorized in an overly-simplified manner so that it will be understood):

  • Three Amarrians; one of Tash-Murkon, two (the founder, and myself) of the Kingdom. A fourth is pending transfer of funds, if I understand correctly.
  • Two Caldari; one a manufacturer, another (admittedly) an unknown to me. A third is pending the failure of the fourth Amarrian to transfer funds by the deadline, again if I understand the posting in the Market Discussions subforum correctly.
  • Three Gallenteans; one of whom is a Kingdom resident and citizen, another a member of the Federal Defense Union. The third I do not know.
  • Zero Minmatar.

However, not a single one of these is you, Miss Kim, which, I believe, means that you have squandered your opportunity to be involved at a level that allows you to have some say in how things go - instead choosing to rant here and in other threads.

I understand you to be a loud, opinionated individual who simply must make her voice heard at all times at any cost, but your rantings are not appropriate for this thread (nor many others, I confess), and are likely to be turned around and used against you to the amusement of many of your peers.

Please refrain, for your own sake.

Lady Indira Harashani

Holder of the Kheryskova Archipelago, Kihtaled IV

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-09-20 21:25:13 UTC
Indira Harashani wrote:
instead choosing to rant here and in other threads.

I understand you to be a loud, opinionated individual who simply must make her voice heard at all times at any cost, but your rantings are not appropriate for this thread (nor many others, I confess), and are likely to be turned around and used against you to the amusement of many of your peers.

Unlike you, Mr. Harashani, and peoples like you, my achievements and my business can be easily seen by everyone and estimated in ISK value. I back my words with actions. While you can say only empty words.
We, Caldari, believe in merit. And your merit, Ms. Harashani, is not enough for your words to have any value.

Indira Harashani wrote:

Please refrain, for your own sake.

Besides lack of merit, I would like to remind you, that you are a jaijii, and have neither rank, no authority in the State. Thus all your "suggestions" I can easily ignore completely.

You can send me a paper request form, if you wish, so I can crumple it and throw to waste bin.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#31 - 2014-09-20 21:49:27 UTC
Can you please not make every thread on the IGS about yourself? This is an interesting new venture that deserves a little front page time without the Diana Kim show drowning it out. Please.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-09-20 21:53:45 UTC
Jinari Otsito wrote:
Can you please not make every thread on the IGS about yourself? This is an interesting new venture that deserves a little front page time without the Diana Kim show drowning it out. Please.

Unfortunately, I have to defend my honor against some irrelevant pilots, who believe they can start personal attacks on me out of nothing and without authority to do so.
Including you.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Indira Harashani
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#33 - 2014-09-21 06:30:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Indira Harashani
Child, anyone attempting to attack your honor here would need sharpshooting skills of the highest caliber if they wished to do so successfully. And not out of any need to penetrate any 'armor' you might be wearing.

Your achievements and business, and their ISK value are entirely irrelevant to this thread. They have nothing to do with the launch of this new publication, the company behind it, or those who have chosen to invest in the venture. All they are, is something for you to hold up and point at while you shout and rant about anyone who does not play along with your diatribes.

My words are neither empty nor without merit - at least, to everyone except you. They are based on nearly two years of observing these forums as well as other venues; I rarely participate because I feel the return on the invested effort to typically be insufficient. Furthermore, I do not particularly care much what you think regarding the weight or merit of my words: I know they have both, as do a number of others on these boards, and that is sufficient for me. I feel no need to insert myself into threads to rant at everyone else in some pitiful, petulant display. That, it seems, would be your thing.

True enough, I have no rank nor authority in the State. I would not want it; I have enough responsibilities of my own as a Holder in the Kingdom. Which, incidentally, is where this new venture is based. As it happens, that, coupled with your squandered opportunity to invest, makes you the 'jaijii' without rank or authority in not only the jurisdiction in which Padesar Uls was founded and is based, but this thread as well.

Lady Indira Harashani

Holder of the Kheryskova Archipelago, Kihtaled IV

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-09-21 10:40:01 UTC
Indira Harashani wrote:
Child

I am not a child to you, and if you can't distinguish State insignia to use as a proper honorific, you should have consulted State officials first, instead of displaying to the whole star cluster that even among as respectable and polite peoples as Amarr there are exclusions.

Indira Harashani wrote:
anyone attempting to attack your honor here would need sharpshooting skills of the highest caliber if they wished to do so successfully. And not out of any need to penetrate any 'armor' you might be wearing.

Which only means you should first look for definition of the word honor before speaking about it.
Makes sense, right?

Indira Harashani wrote:

Your achievements and business, and their ISK value are entirely irrelevant to this thread.

Just as your sudden outbursts of dirt. Have the State suddenly popped your favorite toy slave, so you cry so loud?
I could send you some tissues. Of course, you will have to pay for them their market price.

Indira Harashani wrote:

My words are neither empty nor without merit

Said a person, who emerged in the topic just to insult others.

Indira Harashani wrote:

True enough, I have no rank nor authority in the State. I would not want it; I have enough responsibilities of my own as a Holder in the Kingdom.

Then you would do service to yourself by keeping your mouth shut to not defaming yourself further.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#35 - 2014-09-21 11:54:57 UTC
... and on tonight's episode of...

... sod it. These boards are useless. Why try?

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-09-21 12:04:32 UTC
Jinari Otsito wrote:
... and on tonight's episode of...

... sod it. These boards are useless. Why try?

If suddenly peoples like this "Indira Harashani" appear just to insult for propositions, it doesn't mean whole forums are useless.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#37 - 2014-09-21 12:10:30 UTC
No, Kim. It doesn't. You on the other hand taking every bloody thread on the entire bloody forum to turn into an argument entirely centered around yourself and your blithering is what has made these boards useless. I mean this in every conceivable way. You are a plague on communication. On the IGS. On New Eden. You repel and choke all interaction between others, forcing yourself into every subject you don't belong in. If you'd actually talk about the topic at hand, that would at least be something, but you don't. You turn it into a discussion about yourself and insulting everyone around you, every single time. With no exceptions.

It's okay, you've won. You've repelled all decent and reasonable discourse, quelled all tendencies towards any new or interesting topics. You get to sit victoriously in the ruins of these boards, playing the Diana Kim show endlessly into the aether.

Congratulations on managing something even the titans of the past never achieved.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#38 - 2014-09-21 12:42:12 UTC
Jinari Otsito wrote:
You turn it into a discussion about yourself

That is an utter lie
Jinari Otsito wrote:
and insulting everyone around you, every single time. With no exceptions.

Only those, who came to insult me. Like you.
If I ever insulted anyone - look at first what you do, and think, why I did this.

I am not going to insult anyone out of nothing, like you do. But if you ever insulted me, or spread any lies about me - I won't leave it without attention. Be sure in this.
And will be coming at you with similar approach, until I notice change in your behavior and will decide it will be enough for you.

And have a nice jam.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#39 - 2014-09-21 13:25:43 UTC
Number One:
Are we all in the state?
- No.
Why should you hold us in some light that we are? Especially since your not "valued" the same way as you are in it.

Number Two:
This particular thread is about a new industry publication starting, why exactly are we talking about your honor or lack there of?
- Some preconcieved notion by other people based on past actions that your taking to heart.
Ever hear the phrase silence is golden? If their going to say what is in your eyes, ignorant, why give them a response? How is your honor tarnished from words of people who don't hold any in your eyes?
Daamal Ulaannar
Padesar Uls
#40 - 2014-09-21 14:09:01 UTC
I can announce that Padesar Uls has set up its headquarters in Khanid space however we are having one or two organisational problems due to an incursion that is ongoing in the Nohshayess constellation. However we are working to ensure that the incursion does not disrupt our current timetable.

I will keep you updated on our progress there. But for the moment I would like to announce that all shares have been sold. I would like to reassure that further investment opportunities will arrive in the future.

I would encourage anyone who would like to talk on the matter of Padesar Uls in any way continue to post in this Galnet thread. Whether that be investment opportunities, requests about possible coverage by our reporters or questions about what we are currently planning to cover.

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