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[Oceanus] Interdictor Updates

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5yndr0m3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2014-09-18 01:20:07 UTC
Capqu wrote:



warping in bubbles to aggress was unintuitive and obscure. however the issue of dictors on an npc null station really needs to be looked at



this.
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
#42 - 2014-09-18 01:51:49 UTC
just get some sov and you don't have to worry about interdictor aggression mechanics
Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
#43 - 2014-09-18 01:59:57 UTC
How about changing the Damage/RoF bonus to be a fall-off bonus and give it an 8th turret?
Airi Cho
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#44 - 2014-09-18 02:08:50 UTC
Gorski Car wrote:
First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak out—
Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted

Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot

Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Linked Pilot

Then they came for my Light Missiles
-and there was no one left to speak for me

Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-09-18 03:10:35 UTC
Omega Crendraven wrote:
First they came from my rapid lights
And I did nothing
Then they came from my LML's
And there was no one left to protect me


Gorski Car wrote:
First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak out—
Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted

Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot

Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Linked Pilot

Then they came for my Light Missiles
-and there was no one left to speak for me




The real problem is that when CCP talks about boosting something nobody uses, everyone's response is "why buff something we won't use?" and then when they talk about nerfing something everybody uses, the response is "OMG CCP you're ruining the game for everyone!" The problem isn't any lack of CCP's ability to balance the game, but a resistance to having a balanced game.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Naoru Kozan
Perkone
Caldari State
#46 - 2014-09-18 03:35:30 UTC
Gorski Car wrote:
First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak out—
Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted

Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot

Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Linked Pilot

Then they came for my Light Missiles
-and there was no one left to speak for me

Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#47 - 2014-09-18 04:54:01 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey everyone! As CCP Seagull mentioned in her coming in Oceanus dev blog, we're following up with Interceptors and Interdictors this release to apply some more polish.

These Interdictor changes are fairly minor as we consider the balance of this class fairly healthy. They are mainly aimed at helping the Eris, Heretic and Flycatcher compete more strongly against the Sabre for applications where combat ability matters.

One important module tweak that applies significantly to these ships (we'll be discussing it in more detail in an upcoming module balance blog) is that in Oceanus Light Missile Launchers will have their Rate of Fire decreased by ~6%.

Eris:
Replace the +5% Small Hybrid damage bonus with +5% Small Hybrid RoF
-50000 Mass

Heretic:
Replace the +5% Missile damage bonus with +5% Rocket and Light Missile launcher RoF
-5000 Mass
-0.1 Inertia

Flycatcher:
+1 Launcher
+10 CPU
+3 PWG


I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, they're getting better dps which falls in line with being able to hit things *hard* on field before going down, but the slot layout still does need to be addressed. it would be a fairly simple matter to just drop a high on the flycatcher and give it the extra low. Need to fit cloak and bubble? Just drop a launcher and you'll be fine, np.

I am looking forward to fitting lights on a kite heretic for FW plexing. it looks scary as hell with the extra dps and slight mobility bump.
Torei Dutalis
IceBox Inc.
Rogue Caldari Union
#48 - 2014-09-18 04:54:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Torei Dutalis
Changes to interdictors, sure, great, nothing really amazing to look at. More random nerfs, not cool Fozzie, not cool. Hopefully the Gorski Car quote fest will reach a critical mass.
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#49 - 2014-09-18 06:11:48 UTC
Sounds good to me.

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#50 - 2014-09-18 07:59:22 UTC
I like the changes. +1

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Rek Seven
Galactic Deep Space Industries
Brave Collective
#51 - 2014-09-18 08:13:30 UTC
There needs to be a new warp disruption bubble for the Interdictors that is capable of stopping interdiction immune ships.
Faren Shalni
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2014-09-18 08:42:20 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:
There needs to be a new warp disruption bubble for the Interdictors that is capable of stopping interdiction immune ships.


Point on the doll where the interceptor touched you

So Much Space

Madbuster73
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#53 - 2014-09-18 08:53:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Madbuster73
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Omega Crendraven wrote:
First they came from my rapid lights
And I did nothing
Then they came from my LML's
And there was no one left to protect me


Gorski Car wrote:
First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak out—
Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted

Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot

Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Linked Pilot

Then they came for my Light Missiles
-and there was no one left to speak for me




The real problem is that when CCP talks about boosting something nobody uses, everyone's response is "why buff something we won't use?" and then when they talk about nerfing something everybody uses, the response is "OMG CCP you're ruining the game for everyone!" The problem isn't any lack of CCP's ability to balance the game, but a resistance to having a balanced game.




They are buffing and nerfing the wrong thing. Its Ishtars and Stealthbombers that need nerfed.
Everybody knows Ishtars are way too OP.
Everybody knows Stealthbombers are OP, hence why nobody in 0.0 wants to fight in Battleships anymore.

Ishtars DPS needs be cut in half.
Stealtbombers need to be nerfed by giving bomb launch delay after decloaking (5 seconds delay)
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#54 - 2014-09-18 08:56:08 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
One important module tweak that applies significantly to these ships (we'll be discussing it in more detail in an upcoming module balance blog) is that in Oceanus Light Missile Launchers will have their Rate of Fire decreased by ~6%.

Welcome to the new EVE: A Game of Drones.
You continually buff drones, essentially leave the Ishtar overpowered and intact and resume the march to nerf missiles in one form or another.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Danny John-Peter
The Congregation
HIDDEN LEAF VILLAGE NINJA AssAssIn SQUAD eSports
#55 - 2014-09-18 09:17:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Danny John-Peter
Well I guess its time to buy Flycatchers.

Or you know, probably just buy a Worm or 5 instead.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2014-09-18 09:49:35 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey everyone! As CCP Seagull mentioned in her coming in Oceanus dev blog, we're following up with Interceptors and Interdictors this release to apply some more polish.

These Interdictor changes are fairly minor as we consider the balance of this class fairly healthy. They are mainly aimed at helping the Eris, Heretic and Flycatcher compete more strongly against the Sabre for applications where combat ability matters.

One important module tweak that applies significantly to these ships (we'll be discussing it in more detail in an upcoming module balance blog) is that in Oceanus Light Missile Launchers will have their Rate of Fire decreased by ~6%.

Eris:
Replace the +5% Small Hybrid damage bonus with +5% Small Hybrid RoF
-50000 Mass

Heretic:
Replace the +5% Missile damage bonus with +5% Rocket and Light Missile launcher RoF
-5000 Mass
-0.1 Inertia

Flycatcher:
+1 Launcher
+10 CPU
+3 PWG



is is really -50 K mass for one and -5 K for the other?

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#57 - 2014-09-18 09:57:08 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:


The real problem is that when CCP talks about boosting something nobody uses, everyone's response is "why buff something we won't use?" and then when they talk about nerfing something everybody uses, the response is "OMG CCP you're ruining the game for everyone!" The problem isn't any lack of CCP's ability to balance the game, but a resistance to having a balanced game.


Implying anyone would cry if sentries#2014Eve got nerfed.
per
Terpene Conglomerate
#58 - 2014-09-18 10:01:48 UTC
flycatcher the new king of the hill
Santiago Diamond
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-09-18 10:04:21 UTC
Gorski Car wrote:
First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak out—
Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted

Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot

Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Linked Pilot

Then they came for my Light Missiles
-and there was no one left to speak for me


It seems like CCP is on an ever increasing race to the middle, where everything is average and cozy and stupid. We don't need another "America", but in internet space, full of average intelligence and Chinese imports. Because that's where this is totally going.

rabble:rabble:rabble
ivona fly
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#60 - 2014-09-18 10:22:49 UTC
Gorski Car wrote:
First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak out—
Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted

Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot

Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Linked Pilot

Then they came for my Lights
-and there was no one left to speak for me