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[Oceanus] Interdictor Updates

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El Space Mariachi
Broski North
SAMURAI SOUL'd OUT
#21 - 2014-09-17 23:35:03 UTC
i guess raptors getting buffed is cool though so thanks

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#22 - 2014-09-17 23:35:13 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
-snap-

One important module tweak that applies significantly to these ships (we'll be discussing it in more detail in an upcoming module balance blog) is that in Oceanus Light Missile Launchers will have their Rate of Fire decreased by ~6%.


Ohoh!!

I have the feeling that someone will be messing with my missiles again.

Now whom in the csm do I need to strangle to prevent this from happening?

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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Bullet Therapist
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-09-17 23:40:57 UTC
Ha! Now I've got a reason to fly something other than the sabre.
HHHNNNGGG
Sanchez's Little Helpers
#24 - 2014-09-17 23:40:58 UTC
Gorski Car wrote:
First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak out—
Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted

Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot

Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Linked Pilot

Then they came for my Lights
-and there was no one left to speak for me


El Space Mariachi
Broski North
SAMURAI SOUL'd OUT
#25 - 2014-09-17 23:46:30 UTC  |  Edited by: El Space Mariachi
El Space Mariachi wrote:
can you refund my SP in light missiles and dump it directly into drones please I want to remain competitive in Drones Online and trade my talwars in for Algoses

also can you apply the 6% decrease to RLMLs so I can have a longer uptime before I'm useless during reloads tia in advance


El Space Mariachi wrote:
fozzie why do you and Rise have a compulsion to implement (needed) nerfs to overpowered ships by both hurting the ship and the weapon system it uses? HMLs had to die so that everyone and their aunt would stop flying Drakes, when does the madness end?


why do you hate caldari?
why do you hate missiles?
why do you like hurting me???? what did i do to you???????



El Space Mariachi wrote:
i guess raptors getting buffed is cool though so thanks


wow this is the wrong thread thanks whoever linked me this

HHHNNNGGG wrote:
Gorski Car wrote:
First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak out—
Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted

Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot

Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Linked Pilot

Then they came for my Lights
-and there was no one left to speak for me




same

gay gamers for jesus

TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#26 - 2014-09-17 23:49:41 UTC
why are dictors crazy fast, while destroyers are slower than cruisers?
Rengas
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#27 - 2014-09-17 23:54:45 UTC
Gorski Car wrote:
First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak out—
Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted

Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot

Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Linked Pilot

Then they came for my Lights
-and there was no one left to speak for me

All my lights have gone out...
Capqu
Half Empty
#28 - 2014-09-17 23:56:22 UTC
Gorski Car wrote:
First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak out—
Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted

Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot

Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Linked Pilot

Then they came for my Lights
-and there was no one left to speak for me


lights are overpowered at frigate level but they're a joke compared to what ******* drones are at cruiser level

bouncer iis online thanks rise thanks fozzie thanks obama
Capqu
Half Empty
#29 - 2014-09-18 00:02:38 UTC
TrouserDeagle wrote:
why are dictors crazy fast, while destroyers are slower than cruisers?


because cruisers were re-balanced more recently than destroyers

in case you haven't noticed re-balance means massive buffs and power creep unless you're talking about missiles in which case it means
rest in peace heavy missiles
rest in peas rapid lights
rest in piece citadel torps

gone but not froggoten

upvote if u cry everytime u see a heavy missile launcher in the wild in 2014
(i've never cried)
Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-09-18 00:07:57 UTC
What about fixing the issue with agression on the dictor's bubble?
first it got agression, now there is no way to agress a dictor by its bubble.
This is overpowered and i was expecting a change to that was fairly disappointed.
Nice the eris gets a buff but still not getting at the crux of the problem with interdictors.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#31 - 2014-09-18 00:10:53 UTC
i liked the heretic for its good alpha - so i usually used heretic for LML/kite and flycatcher for rocket/brawl (dual neut yey!). You will still be able to do that after the changes (obviously) but the changes make them very similar ships.

The different properties made them quite interesting but the proposed changes would make them almost exchangeable and therefore in my opinion overall more boring ships.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#32 - 2014-09-18 00:11:03 UTC  |  Edited by: FT Diomedes
Henry Plantgenet wrote:
What about fixing the issue with agression on the dictor's bubble?
first it got agression, now there is no way to agress a dictor by its bubble.
This is overpowered and i was expecting a change to that was fairly disappointed.
Nice the eris gets a buff but still not getting at the crux of the problem with interdictors.


No, this is working as intended. It also means that being an interdictor pilot doesn't mean losing your ship almost every time you fly it.The more I see these interdictor changes, the happier I am.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Capqu
Half Empty
#33 - 2014-09-18 00:18:12 UTC
Henry Plantgenet wrote:
What about fixing the issue with agression on the dictor's bubble?
first it got agression, now there is no way to agress a dictor by its bubble.
This is overpowered and i was expecting a change to that was fairly disappointed.
Nice the eris gets a buff but still not getting at the crux of the problem with interdictors.



warping in bubbles to aggress was unintuitive and obscure. however the issue of dictors on an npc null station really needs to be looked at
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#34 - 2014-09-18 00:19:31 UTC
Gorski Car wrote:
First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak out—
Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted

Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot

Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Linked Pilot

Then they came for my Light Missiles
-and there was no one left to speak for me

Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
#35 - 2014-09-18 00:22:39 UTC
Capqu wrote:
however the issue of dictors on an npc null station really needs to be looked at

working as intended

stage in lowsec if you don't like bubbles
Capqu
Half Empty
#36 - 2014-09-18 00:24:00 UTC
Promiscuous Female wrote:
Capqu wrote:
however the issue of dictors on an npc null station really needs to be looked at

working as intended

stage in lowsec if you don't like bubbles


we do m7 im not talkin about it for myself, i try to have an objective view on things u know
Absocold
Origin.
Fraternity.
#37 - 2014-09-18 00:28:11 UTC
It's rather odd that T1 Destroyers can demolish Interdictors. Give the interdictors a healthy resist bonus. Then add a negative resist bonus to the bubble launcher so that when the hull is used as an interdictor it's the same EHP as it is now but if you take the bubble launcher off then the extra resists take effect and it becomes a real T2 destroyer.

Reverse most of the missile and missile launcher nerfs and replace the ECM mechanic with a Missile Disruption mechanic to go along with the current Turret Destabilization.
Steven Hackett
NOMADS.
#38 - 2014-09-18 00:30:01 UTC
Promiscuous Female wrote:
Capqu wrote:
however the issue of dictors on an npc null station really needs to be looked at

working as intended

stage in lowsec if you don't like bubbles

So does sov.. hf
El Space Mariachi
Broski North
SAMURAI SOUL'd OUT
#39 - 2014-09-18 00:30:37 UTC
ok now i actually bothered to read the op these are all good nice changes f-dog

especially hype for the flycatcher getting an extra launcher

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Powers Sa
#40 - 2014-09-18 01:09:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Powers Sa
I feel like you're trying to encourage close range combat over kiting with these changes. Is the idea to force more commitment and therefore greater consumption? Afterall, we don't see arty sabres

El Space Mariachi wrote:
ok now i actually bothered to read the op these are all good nice changes f-dog

especially hype for the flycatcher getting an extra launcher

all aboard the hype train

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