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So what do people think of EVE's new release schedule?

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Flamespar
WarRavens
#1 - 2014-09-16 11:41:14 UTC
So far I've found it pretty underwhelming. But that's only because industry isn't something I enjoy in EVE, which a large part of the releases have focussed on.

Of course, if industry is your thing then that's great, your time has come (after just 10 short years lol).

I'm hoping something comes along which renews my interest in the game. It hasn't happened yet, but we'll see.

What do you think about the new release schedule? Is it like living on a drip feed on life support, or a constant stream of riches?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-09-16 11:45:54 UTC
Has it been ten minutes already? Huh....

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-09-16 11:58:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Grog Aftermath
Flamespar wrote:
So far I've found it pretty underwhelming. But that's only because industry isn't something I enjoy in EVE, which a large part of the releases have focussed on.

Of course, if industry is your thing then that's great, your time has come (after just 10 short years lol).

I'm hoping something comes along which renews my interest in the game. It hasn't happened yet, but we'll see.

What do you think about the new release schedule? Is it like living on a drip feed on life support, or a constant stream of riches?



Drip fed will always seem underwhelming as by the time the new drip comes along, people would have gotten used to the last one.

Just a matter of people getting used to little and often. Don't think of them as mini expansions, just think of them as continual enhancements/improvements.


Industry is not my thing either, but an improvement is an improvement even if it's something I won't use.
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2014-09-16 11:59:45 UTC
considering theres only been 2 out of the ten how about we wait a little longer before we decide to succumb to our finicky desires.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2014-09-16 12:01:59 UTC
Love it, it's great.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#6 - 2014-09-16 12:06:46 UTC
I love it. You get some new tidbit every so often, and it's better than waiting a few months for a feature that's been done for ages.

Iterative improvement is something this game has needed for a very long time, especially after Incarna nearly killed the whole thing.

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pinkajoo
#7 - 2014-09-16 12:07:28 UTC
Looks good, kinda like those Warcraft 3 DotA map releases that update the game every so often. Keeps the players on their toes.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#8 - 2014-09-16 12:08:12 UTC
Rowells wrote:
considering theres only been 2 out of the ten how about we wait a little longer before we decide to succumb to our finicky desires.


It's ok for you to develop an opinion now. It's ok. I'll hold you and we'll get through this together.

Seriously this is just meant to be a fun discussion.
Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-09-16 12:11:12 UTC
a lot of people (op included) just dont get how it works, shorter release cycle wont means that they only have smaller projects, just that while the guys working on longer-term projects strife onward, the guys working on all those small quality of life and easy done fixes can release them when they are ready, without waiting for the bigger stuff.
Remissus Rinah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-09-16 12:15:11 UTC
While not having the big expansions of olden times will feel kind of weird, and personally I liked getting all that content at once, I can see the technical benefits of releasing things in the 'drip feed' style. Lets the smaller improvements come out sooner and gives them more time in the spotlight to be bugfixed faster, while letting the longer term projects still soldier on at the old pace.

~ Remissus

Flamespar
WarRavens
#11 - 2014-09-16 12:15:31 UTC
Sara Tosa wrote:
a lot of people (op included) just dont get how it works, shorter release cycle wont means that they only have smaller projects, just that while the guys working on longer-term projects strife onward, the guys working on all those small quality of life and easy done fixes can release them when they are ready, without waiting for the bigger stuff.


Oh dear fool. I do understand. I am just saying that what I have seen so far has not been terribly interesting to me and that that situation may change.

Your opinion may differ. But you won't get very far misinterpreting what I have said.

I'd rather hear what you have liked or would like to see in the future.
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2014-09-16 12:15:36 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Rowells wrote:
considering theres only been 2 out of the ten how about we wait a little longer before we decide to succumb to our finicky desires.


It's ok for you to develop an opinion now. It's ok. I'll hold you and we'll get through this together.

Seriously this is just meant to be a fun discussion.
And I'm saying that finding it "underwhelming" is kind of unfair. Is its too early to develop any kind of meaningful opinion. That's my take.

And don't touch me. I have issues.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#13 - 2014-09-16 12:16:59 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Rowells wrote:
considering theres only been 2 out of the ten how about we wait a little longer before we decide to succumb to our finicky desires.


It's ok for you to develop an opinion now. It's ok. I'll hold you and we'll get through this together.

Seriously this is just meant to be a fun discussion.
And I'm saying that finding it "underwhelming" is kind of unfair. Is its too early to develop any kind of meaningful opinion. That's my take.

And don't touch me. I have issues.


Let me shower you with pretty clothes .
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-09-16 12:21:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Grog Aftermath
Sara Tosa wrote:
a lot of people (op included) just dont get how it works, shorter release cycle wont means that they only have smaller projects, just that while the guys working on longer-term projects strife onward, the guys working on all those small quality of life and easy done fixes can release them when they are ready, without waiting for the bigger stuff.



Do they intend to release large expansions (projects)? Larger projects can always be introduced in smaller pieces.

Advantage of smaller pieces is it's likely to be easier to find errors/bugs.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#15 - 2014-09-16 12:24:46 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Sara Tosa wrote:
a lot of people (op included) just dont get how it works, shorter release cycle wont means that they only have smaller projects, just that while the guys working on longer-term projects strife onward, the guys working on all those small quality of life and easy done fixes can release them when they are ready, without waiting for the bigger stuff.



Do they intend to release large expansions (projects)? Larger projects can always be introduced in smaller pieces.

Advantage of smaller pieces is it's likely to be easier to find errors/bugs.


Dunno. Hopefully now that the industry stuff is largely done we'll see something large and exciting.
Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
#16 - 2014-09-16 12:25:13 UTC
Think their information is to close to the release date. For example, the interceptor changes are supposed to be coming with the next release, which is less then 2 weeks away. Theres no information on the changes yet.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-09-16 12:59:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Destination SkillQueue
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Sara Tosa wrote:
a lot of people (op included) just dont get how it works, shorter release cycle wont means that they only have smaller projects, just that while the guys working on longer-term projects strife onward, the guys working on all those small quality of life and easy done fixes can release them when they are ready, without waiting for the bigger stuff.



Do they intend to release large expansions (projects)? Larger projects can always be introduced in smaller pieces.

Advantage of smaller pieces is it's likely to be easier to find errors/bugs.

The new system has no major effect on project sizes. It is more or less the same development, but with more release points throughout the year. It means more releases, but only a few of those will likely contain the kind of major content blocks/changes, that were the main features of previous expansions. It can also allow potentially larger projects, since previously they were limited by the expansion schedule. Now there is less pressure for a project to fit in the expansion cycle no matter what its condition was or be stripped down because it would be too large to fit the old release cycle. We will see better how it works overall and what problems it has after it has been around for 12 to 18 months.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#18 - 2014-09-16 13:02:54 UTC
I think I'll miss the hype of the big expansions, even though I always knew they wouldn't live up to said hype.

But there's no doubt whatsoever that it's a better way to go.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-09-16 13:11:50 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Sara Tosa wrote:
a lot of people (op included) just dont get how it works, shorter release cycle wont means that they only have smaller projects, just that while the guys working on longer-term projects strife onward, the guys working on all those small quality of life and easy done fixes can release them when they are ready, without waiting for the bigger stuff.



Do they intend to release large expansions (projects)? Larger projects can always be introduced in smaller pieces.

Advantage of smaller pieces is it's likely to be easier to find errors/bugs.

The new system has no major effect on project sizes. It is more or less the same development, but with more release points throughout the year. It means more releases, but only a few of those will likely contain the kind of major content blocks/changes, that were the main features of previous expansions. It can also allow potentially larger projects, since previously they were limited by the expansion schedule. Now there is less pressure for a project to fit in the expansion cycle no matter what its condition was or be stripped down because it would be too large to fit the old release cycle. We will see better how it works overall and what problems it has after it has been around for 12 to 18 months.



+1.

Have you seen the movie Idiocracy? If you have not, I highly recommend it, but if you have, you should remember the scene where the protagonist gets sentenced to death because the crops don't start growing immediately after they get watered.

I for one only miss the trailers. I want trailers. I love EVE cinematics, even if they don't reflect the actual gameplay, they are always a spectacle for me. I even enjoyed Incarna (what? admit it, that space battle was pretty darn cool).

But when you're trying something new, it's a bit unfair to judge it before it's been given a chance to show results.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

malcovas Henderson
THoF
#20 - 2014-09-16 13:20:53 UTC
As long as they do not destroy the game, I don't care how many Patches / updates / expansions they roll out.
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