EVE General Discussion

was about to send you back 2bn ISK but i got a socket closed error, sorry

Personally, I'm glad to know where ISK doubling scammers come from. Turns out they were all just butthurt about network errors. Will definitely keep this in mind next time I'm in Jita.

In fact, I might start selling "Socket Openers" for a billion isk each and see if I can get the doublers to bite . . . .

and this only ever happens in EVE and in no other online game/application, or im just really unlucky and its happened 4 times in the last 2 hours and has never happened ever in any other game, also given how many ppl are complaining about this error these 'backbones' must be really really bad, strange how ive never noticed it before...

oh wait sarcasm makes ppl cry, must stop

Or just, that "Reply" button looks so shiny, I think I'll sperg and blame the OP without doing any fact finding first.

A large number of NA players have reported socket closures for some time now. It's happening to me daily.

That's an interesting problem you have there. Might I interest you in a Socket Opener? I'm selling them in Jita for 1 Billion ISK a piece.

6 million ISK.

You made a forum thread to ***** about losing 6 million ISK.


I have literally used 10 times that much in the last 48 hours between jump fuel, repairs, and ammo.

It's not happening to loads of people all the time. It happened to loads of people for a little while a couple of days ago. If it were happening to loads of people all the time, we would know about it. The problems you and a few other grumpy people are experience are a tiny fraction of a percent of everyone playing EvE and getting along just fine.

The fact of the matter is that there are tons of variables between you and CCP's servers. There's your own internal network, which is probably not an optimal setup for gaming. You mentioned that someone else was gaming in the next room. Adding lots of high-network traffic up usually degrades performance for at least one of the people trying to use that bandwidth. Get some people doing a lot of gaming in the next room and try to stream a video from Netflix: someone will notice a problem.

Your own network hardware will do some traffic-shaping before your packets even leave your house to get to your ISP.

Then your ISP shapes traffic by prioritizing certain types of traffic over others as well, especially during peak demand. Are you on a cable modem where you share your bandwidth with your entire neighborhood? Guess what? Everyone can't have everything all the time. Some people get dropped. Many websites and applications handle this pretty gracefully. When all a site has to do is render a page until you click on another link for another page, that is relatively resistant to brief network slowdowns like the ones you get under heavy load. Games that have to interact with the server every second are not so forgiving.

After you vie with your internal home network traffic, and then compete with possibly everyone in your entire neighborhood, then the traffic actually has to get routed somewhere and hop from node to node to actually get somewhere useful. Small things can happen at any of these nodes that can cause anything from a slight delay to something your game client interprets as a disconnect.

There are literally hundreds of variables from your own computer to your own network to your ISP to your city infrastructure to your country's infrastructure that could be causing problems. I think it's pretty safe to say that when it's a tiny number of people having the problem, it's really probably not CCP. Obviously, when everyone gets kicked off the server, that's a different issue. But that's not what's happening right now.

yes its true, i've only been working in IT for 10-15 years, i have no clue about the internet, network routing or anything ;) please stop with this persistent fanboy arse licking, this problem is not related to my system or my local connection, and i have pingplots to prove it, its always 2-3 steps down the line, and none of that denies the point that it happens only and exclusively with EVE and quite frankly im in central london, probably less than 10 miles from the server, its amazing how the internet can stream 2 hours of film to my phone in the middle of a field but is drastically flawed trying to talk to a server in my own town :)

Last time this happened i tried 17 websites(F5=live refresh dontcha know), and 4 other games (average ping <10ms), all of which performed flawlessly, and yet i was unable to connect to the game or the eve website, and your still trying to tell me its not eve related, please stop

If your code isnt strong enough to handle the randomly switched nature of the internet, you shouldnt be charging ppl to use it.

If I had a penny for everyone that claimed to work in IT and be having persistent connection difficulties to EVE, I would own Canada.

Fanboy? I know that's intended as an insult but I'm going to take it as a compliment, because I love EVE. Play it all the time, and I have had no connection trouble ever since I fixed my own socket closed issues. And I live in Australia, we have worse internet than India you know.



Realy? It took you working in IT for over a decade to figure that one out?

your insults still dont negate the point that this problem doesnt exist with anything apart from EVE, didnt exist 5 months ago, nor in the 6 years i was playing eve before that, the simple fact is that pingtrace proves the problem occurs upstream from me and doesnt happen in the tens of other online things i do online every day, and blaming "the internet" isnt really a justifiable excuse, if my connection can hold stable <10ms pings to multitudes of other applications isnt it reasonable to expect EVE to not have a problem ?