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Solecist Project
#61 - 2014-09-15 11:02:25 UTC
... that sometimes ... it's naughty. ;)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#62 - 2014-09-15 12:41:00 UTC
Asuming people posting have an idea what RP actualy is.

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Citizen of Solitude
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#63 - 2014-09-15 12:56:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Grog Aftermath
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Asuming people posting have an idea what RP actualy is.



The way I see it is, real role players give their characters a different personality to themselves, talking in a particular way and style, act in a different way, whilst keeping continuity in all that they do, which requires a lot effort.

Your average player just plays a character using their own personality as the template, which of course requires minimal effort.
Solecist Project
#64 - 2014-09-15 13:25:11 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Asuming people posting have an idea what RP actualy is.



The way I see it is, real role players give their characters a different personality to themselves, talking in a particular way and style, act in a different way, whilst keeping continuity in all that they do, which requires a lot effort.

Your average player just plays a character using their own personality as the template, which of course requires minimal effort.

I always see people in EVE are actually always roleplaying,
because they simply play a role in the greater good that keeps the game going ...

... and that what we see as roleplayers simply are the more dedicated ones.

Like... the extreme variants of the escapists we all are in one way or the other.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#65 - 2014-09-15 13:43:52 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Asuming people posting have an idea what RP actualy is.



The way I see it is, real role players give their characters a different personality to themselves, talking in a particular way and style, act in a different way, whilst keeping continuity in all that they do, which requires a lot effort.

Your average player just plays a character using their own personality as the template, which of course requires minimal effort.

I always see people in EVE are actually always roleplaying,
because they simply play a role in the greater good that keeps the game going ...

... and that what we see as roleplayers simply are the more dedicated ones.

Like... the extreme variants of the escapists we all are in one way or the other.




I think all/most players (which ever applies) play the role of a character (assassin, bounty hunter...) to some degree, but only a small percentage actually role play the character itself.
Dacan Wood
Gemini Lounge
#66 - 2014-09-15 14:47:31 UTC
Don, err I mean CEO, of the Gemini Lounge checking in. We are importers of fine olive oil and not at all run under the strict code of a mafia family. As we all know, there's no such thing as the mafia anyway.
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#67 - 2014-09-15 15:00:50 UTC
Daemun Khanid wrote:
You may have a headache in the morning. I recommend lots of fluids and 1600mg of motrin.


Hangover not overly bad today as I made a 6 egg omelette before bed so it soaked up the booze in my gut.

Keep making a self note to myself to resist the temptation to post on these forums after a few bottles of potent shiraz but i never learn Sad

I apologize for some of my posts when i do as reflecting back on them absent the influence of alcohol, they sometimes embarass me and reading them makes me cringe Oops

Concord Approved Trader
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#68 - 2014-09-15 15:12:06 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
marriage between characters and shared wallets should be a thing


Just think of how fun the divorce mechanic would be.

If CCP thought the bonus room was bad... just wait til they have family court.



Chribba will be busier than ever?

I now pronounce you pixel and pixel. You pay pixel the pixel.

Pixel prenups only 0.01 ISK!!

/c

Permitting the wedding ceremonies to be held on the bridge of the Veldnaught would be a great addition to the third party services you currently offer.

Concord Approved Trader
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#69 - 2014-09-15 20:18:12 UTC
One must weigh the impacts of roleplaying the same way an actor would weigh the risks of going 'full re1ard'...

"Kirk Lazarus: Everybody knows you never go full re1ard.

Tugg Speedman: What do you mean?

Kirk Lazarus: Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look re1arded, act re1arded, not re1arded. Counted toothpicks, cheated cards. Autistic, sho'. Not re1arded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, yes. Re1arded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off Nixon and won a ping-pong competition. That ain't re1arded. Peter Sellers, "Being There." Infantile, yes. Re1arded, no. You went full re1ard, man. Never go full re1ard. You don't buy that? Ask Sean Penn, 2001, "I Am Sam." Remember? Went full re1ard, went home empty handed..."

Once you take it (and yourself) seriously, you become one of 'those wierdos'.

IMHO.

F

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#70 - 2014-09-15 20:38:34 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
The way I see it is, real role players give their characters a different personality to themselves, talking in a particular way and style, act in a different way, whilst keeping continuity in all that they do, which requires a lot effort.

Your average player just plays a character using their own personality as the template, which of course requires minimal effort.

I don't disagree, that is an obvious form of roleplay; but I think it's also possible that a person can use their RL personality and still roleplay.

The advantage we have in a game is anonymity and a character that acts like a mask, allowing I think, people to be more free than they would be IRL and to bring out aspects of their personality that are there, but which no one normally sees.

Particularly in the play-by-post style of roleplay that suits EvE, there seem to be a lot of players that are roleplaying not by being someone else, but just by being less conservative than than they otherwise normally are.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#71 - 2014-09-16 07:12:14 UTC
The problem with RP seams to be that there are people in this game who consider it harassment if you play the villain. Since there is no clear rule if that's already enough to count as harassment in the eyes of CCP, i consider RP somewhat risky this days. I decided to be on the safe side and keep communications to my gank "victims" to a minimum to avoid any possible accusation of real life harassment for RP.

Evil RatKid
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#72 - 2014-09-16 07:22:57 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
The problem with RP seams to be that there are people in this game who consider it harassment if you play the villain. Since there is no clear rule if that's already enough to count as harassment in the eyes of CCP, i consider RP somewhat risky this days. I decided to be on the safe side and keep communications to my gank "victims" to a minimum to avoid any possible accusation of real life harassment for RP.

I've made some good friends chatting up gank victims. I've even reimbursed their loss when they're super chill about the whole thing.

Bacon makes us stronger
Solecist Project
#73 - 2014-09-16 13:58:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
The problem with RP seams to be that there are people in this game who consider it harassment if you play the villain. Since there is no clear rule if that's already enough to count as harassment in the eyes of CCP, i consider RP somewhat risky this days. I decided to be on the safe side and keep communications to my gank "victims" to a minimum to avoid any possible accusation of real life harassment for RP.

If roleplaying is an excuse to deliberately make people angry ...
... not by ganking, but by contacting them afterwards and mocking them ...
... then of course, roleplaying gets risky.

It's a shame how roleplaying gets dragged into the mud.


I've been there. I asked one of codes agents not to contact a victim we ganked ...
... because I knew what he was up to and din't want to get dragged into his hypocrisy.
Not all of them are like that, but your organisation attracts assholes like **** attracts flies.

All of CODE will get banned eventually,
just because people refuse to stop creating hate,
because it amuses them to rub salt into injuries,
while hiding behind hypocrisy.



Roleplaying has nothing to do with it.

I ganked hundreds of people and the amount of people who threw **** at me
was less than twenty ... and the reason is quite obvious.

I never threw fake superiority at them and I always talked with people reasonably.
The few who did rage I simply blocked, because that's the right thing to do.

It *is* that simple!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#74 - 2014-09-16 18:49:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Ima Wreckyou
Solecist Project wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
The problem with RP seams to be that there are people in this game who consider it harassment if you play the villain. Since there is no clear rule if that's already enough to count as harassment in the eyes of CCP, i consider RP somewhat risky this days. I decided to be on the safe side and keep communications to my gank "victims" to a minimum to avoid any possible accusation of real life harassment for RP.

If roleplaying is an excuse to deliberately make people angry ...
... not by ganking, but by contacting them afterwards and mocking them ...
... then of course, roleplaying gets risky.

It's a shame how roleplaying gets dragged into the mud.


I've been there. I asked one of codes agents not to contact a victim we ganked ...
... because I knew what he was up to and din't want to get dragged into his hypocrisy.
Not all of them are like that, but your organisation attracts assholes like **** attracts flies.

All of CODE will get banned eventually,
just because people refuse to stop creating hate,
because it amuses them to rub salt into injuries,
while hiding behind hypocrisy.



Roleplaying has nothing to do with it.

I ganked hundreds of people and the amount of people who threw **** at me
was less than twenty ... and the reason is quite obvious.

I never threw fake superiority at them and I always talked with people reasonably.
The few who did rage I simply blocked, because that's the right thing to do.

It *is* that simple!

So all it takes is an evemail after you kill someone (it's usually just informal "you got killed because of this and that. Pay 10mil ISK") and people crack down so hard that CCP has to remove you from the game?

I really doubt that, but who knows. At the moment I can just guess, I have no idea what they do next. Maybe that HTFU was just some fanfest presentation thing, they always promise 500% more there than you get in the game.

But you are right, I will stop writing the mails and write the stuff into my bio. Or will that still offend people? What do you think about local? Can I still write in local? No personal talk, just some general "pay or be exploded!".

Btw I do not defend RL harassment in any way. If the people who got banned got banned out of good reasons I can't really argue with that. But I simply don't know and that's seriously bothering me more and more. CCP's secrecy in all this is a real issue.

The mails actually had a reason, at least in my case. I usually wrote them from my scout to shift the blame to him. And he was out there in his little bumping Stabber without guns and demanded 10mil ISK in local. An easy target, he even had a public kill right. Well it's 500mil ISK, but as a rich miner that's just peanuts and he has his revenge.. oh damn why did he warp off..

Ah you where thinking it's just for the tears... how original... things are not always as they seam..

EDIT:
Just in case you don't believe me => http://i.imgur.com/Z7xv7ps.png (Ok that was an extreme case)

Evil RatKid
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#75 - 2014-09-16 19:29:26 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:

Am not much of a roleplayer (though I'm willing to give it a try).. but I was recently invited to a nice channel that was designed as a peaceful beach and witnessed some quiet roleplay I thought was fascinating.


It seems like to me that roleplaying can often occur in private circles and involves some personal trust..


Isn't that cybering, Sibyyl? I mean, peaceful beach - fascinating - private circles - personal trust... I'm lost Ugh

Really lame I can't invite some of my friends to my Captain Quarters. Ohh, I wish Incarna was not that failure. Oops

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2014-09-16 20:25:56 UTC
Bloody Slave wrote:

Isn't that cybering, Sibyyl? I mean, peaceful beach - fascinating - private circles - personal trust... I'm lost Ugh

Really lame I can't invite some of my friends to my Captain Quarters. Ohh, I wish Incarna was not that failure. Oops



If by 'cybering' you mean something sexual, it was not. It was more I was witness to some raw emotions another person may have had, captured within the symbolism of being on a peaceful and empty beach.

All in all EVE can be a game rife with mistrust, and role-playing (in my narrow view) is sometimes a way of not totally exposing yourself to a stranger, and instead using the roles as a proxy to express yourself.


As I tend to put a lot of stock in the sensory experience, role-playing in text form is a bit of a foreign experience to me.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Anslo
Scope Works
#77 - 2014-09-16 20:47:14 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Bloody Slave wrote:

Isn't that cybering, Sibyyl? I mean, peaceful beach - fascinating - private circles - personal trust... I'm lost Ugh

Really lame I can't invite some of my friends to my Captain Quarters. Ohh, I wish Incarna was not that failure. Oops



If by 'cybering' you mean something sexual, it was not. It was more I was witness to some raw emotions another person may have had, captured within the symbolism of being on a peaceful and empty beach.

All in all EVE can be a game rife with mistrust, and role-playing (in my narrow view) is sometimes a way of not totally exposing yourself to a stranger, and instead using the roles as a proxy to express yourself.


As I tend to put a lot of stock in the sensory experience, role-playing in text form is a bit of a foreign experience to me.

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