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Why is bumping titans fully inside POS shields allowed?

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Prince Kobol
#81 - 2014-09-12 18:19:08 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:


I think there is something wrong with me because I liked it


If you have been forced to ever watch the second ghost rider then yes, it wasn't bad.


Oh dear, I think I really need help
Iain Cariaba
#82 - 2014-09-12 19:34:36 UTC
Never flown a Titan, and never will fly a Titan. I'm not so disappointed with the size of my **** that I need to compensate in other ways.

That being said, the solution to this is simple. Simply move the range at which a cyno appears at a POS shield out to 15km.

Whiney McTitanbear wrote:
But it'll take longer to burn back into POS on the one time per year I actually use my epeen for anything other than a ship catapult.

So what? The issue you're crying about has been dubbed an exploit by the Devs, so I don't see it becoming a common occurance without the ban hammer being dropped. Either way, it's your choice to fly one of the biggest isk sinks in the game. If you lose it, whether through combat, an exploit, or your own sheer stupidity, I've no sympathy at all for you.

Last POS bash I was in on, when I lived in null, was an uncontested small tower bash, so the Titan pilot that bridged us out felt it was safe to bring his Titan in to shoot the tower. He commented over comms that in over a year of owning that Titan, it was the first time he'd ever fired the guns on it. Yep, over a year without firing a single shot. This is how people use Titans.

I'm also disappointed that the theme of the thread seems to be more 'pay me back for my loss' and less 'fix the problem.' Super pilots seem to think rule #1 of EvE no longer applies to them. Remember the rule of 'don't fly what you can't afford to lose?' Just because your ship costs 100bil isk doesn't mean you get to ignore this rule.
Prince Kobol
#83 - 2014-09-12 19:37:53 UTC
Once again as I really do not want this thread to disappear if the ship in question is 100% within the PoS shields and has been bumped out using the bounding sphere game mechanics that all ships in Eve use, to bump it out of the PoS shields then without any doubt this is an exploit.

What I would like to know and hopefully a member of the CSM can prod one of the Devs to answer this, Do the logs show if a ship is 100% within PoS shield at the point of impact and if so do the GM have access to those log and know what to look for?
Prince Kobol
#84 - 2014-09-12 19:42:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Iain Cariaba wrote:

I'm also disappointed that the theme of the thread seems to be more 'pay me back for my loss' and less 'fix the problem.' Super pilots seem to think rule #1 of EvE no longer applies to them. Remember the rule of 'don't fly what you can't afford to lose?' Just because your ship costs 100bil isk doesn't mean you get to ignore this rule.



Look, if anything I should be arguing for the other side here however those people who have lost Titans in this manner are first and foremost asking CCP for clarification and reimbursement a distance second.

Also the whole if you cant afford you shouldn't fly it, that is fair enough, however when you lose a ship due to a exploit, why shouldn't that person demand there ship back, whether it be a frigate or Titan, its more the principle then the actual losing of the ship.
DaReaper
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Cannon.Fodder
#85 - 2014-09-12 19:49:12 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
flakeys wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
The coffin dust on this topic killed John Carter


I thought the film killed John Carter.



I rarely put on a movie and not watch it till the end no matter how bad it is , but john carter is an exception to the rule .


I think there is something wrong with me because I liked it


me too, I thought it was a good popcorn flick, and I actually bought it

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KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#86 - 2014-09-12 19:56:42 UTC
ok CSM - speak up.
Iain Cariaba
#87 - 2014-09-12 19:57:43 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:

I'm also disappointed that the theme of the thread seems to be more 'pay me back for my loss' and less 'fix the problem.' Super pilots seem to think rule #1 of EvE no longer applies to them. Remember the rule of 'don't fly what you can't afford to lose?' Just because your ship costs 100bil isk doesn't mean you get to ignore this rule.



Look, if anything I should be arguing for the other side here however those people who have lost Titans in this manner are first and foremost asking CCP for clarification and reimbursement a distance second.

Also the whole if you cant afford you shouldn't fly it, that is fair enough, however when you lose a ship due to a exploit, why shouldn't that person demand there ship back, whether it be a frigate or Titan, its more the principle then the actual losing of the ship.

Because my opinion is that reimbursement should never be done, whether it be a frigate or a Titan. You undock, you take your chances, period. The fact that supers can't dock does not change this.

As to the clarification, the only thing that needs to be said by CCP is the remedy to the issue and some temp bans to those using the exploit.
Prince Kobol
#88 - 2014-09-12 20:50:15 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:

Because my opinion is that reimbursement should never be done, whether it be a frigate or a Titan. You undock, you take your chances, period. The fact that supers can't dock does not change this.

As to the clarification, the only thing that needs to be said by CCP is the remedy to the issue and some temp bans to those using the exploit.


Think you missed the expliot bit...
Prince Kobol
#89 - 2014-09-12 20:51:32 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
flakeys wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
The coffin dust on this topic killed John Carter


I thought the film killed John Carter.



I rarely put on a movie and not watch it till the end no matter how bad it is , but john carter is an exception to the rule .


I think there is something wrong with me because I liked it


me too, I thought it was a good popcorn flick, and I actually bought it



A man with good taste Big smile
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#90 - 2014-09-12 21:00:17 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Diivil wrote:
Since CCP is so reluctant to answer if this is allowed or not I think it's safe to assume that if this thread gets locked or deleted they agree it's an exploit (because you are not allowed to post exploits on this forum). But if it stays open even without a CCP answer it's a legit tactic and we can all go bowling some titans together.
Mmmmm, no. It doesn't work like that. If you think it's an exploit, send in a support ticket to the GM team asking for clarification. Just do not post about it on the forum as either A. It's deemed an exploit later on by CCP and you made it public (bad move!) or B. It's not deemed an exploit later on and you caused undue panic in the community, troll-fests and more work for the GM's and ISD (which is of course bad move number two.....).

In other words, by locking this thread I make no statement whatsoever on the validity of the claim that what the OP states is an exploit, or that it is not. The only statement I make by locking this thread is that the OP broke the forum rules.

Thread locked.

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