Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Jesus christ the entitlement. You dont have a right to run incursions. Fight for them!

Do miners, mission runners, traders, haulers, scammers, etc... face any special risks? No. Why? Because it's highsec. The risk in highsec is suicide ganking, that still applies here. There is no need for more risk.

And carrier ratting in the ultra-safe blue donut part of nullsec does not result in dead carriers. If anything, it's even safer than highsec.

You are confused. I've defended against the ganks and seen how ineffective even well planned ones are. I'm also somewhat familiar with the massive wealth of leadership, which makes inflicting a few billion isk of damage pointless.

That's like saying you don't have the right to suicide gank, or run missions, or mine, or trade, or isk double. There is no reason incursions should be the ONLY game mechanic that can be arbitrarily shut down by a few people with some battleships and a couple of hours to burn. How about we shut down all suicide ganking for 36 hours and see if the gankers are happy to just "go into WH's or something."

Which used to be one of the few mechanics used to interdict large sections of incursions (back when excessive corp hopping was considered an exploit, and thus bannable) and this is no longer easy if possible.

So you're saying that for TVP to stop popping moms ISN has to stop undocking. So you're saying that TVP will repeatedly pop moms until ISN stops undocking... TVP is openly admitting that they're going to pop moms... because ISN undocks... and that they'll follow ISN everywhere and pop all moms if ISN undocks...

That sounds like griefing/harassment to me. According to the EULA, as TVP is openly admitting they're going to go after the moms every time ISN undocks an hq fleet, TVP is admitting to griefing/harassment. That's a perma-banhammer-able offense.

I have half a mind to petition this.

Your an idiot for believing propaganda layden dribble like this.. much less re-posting it. But its obvious where your loyalties are with lobbying like that.

TVP have been rage popping MOMs for being unable to compete in HQ Contests with ISN long before the well spun "fleet looting incident" and allegations against Noble.

No... the true solution is one we don't even have to post suggestions about. Eve is about conflict and the slow drivers behind it.

ISN should get off their moral high horse... scratch their "don't dec incursion communities" rule and go after TVP corp for corp, alt for alt.

Should TVP cut off its nose to spite its face by dropping their incursion alts into NPC corps to avoid this...

Then ISN have enough isk to pay the new order to consider anything in the TVP channels / Fleets as bot aspirants violating the code, or to get the standard Marmite ilk to take out the trash in or around any active incursion zone. More pew, isk gets passed around like a village bicycle, TVP rages like the days of olden and the rest of us are kept young by the ensuing local drama that plays out in game or on the forums.

/my 2 cents.

Bang - all incursions down again.....But no worries being able to only run incursions 15% of the time is obviously WAD.

The fact that you can do or attempt to do those things at any given moment in highsec. There is no arbitrary game mechanic that makes them cease to exist for 36 hours. How about we put in a new site called "suicide ganking prevention site" which is similar to a mom site, and if done prevents all suicide ganking in highsec for 36 hours?

No I mean if someone completes a simple site then the game simply would not let you suicide gank or mine for 36 hours....that would be just....crazy, huh?

You must be joking....go check some of the threads about wardeccing and ganking...the idea that the gankers would just shrug and accept 36 straight hours of no ganking is just laughable, especially if it kept happening every third day. CODE would literally disband. But whatever dude, I'm sure you know best.