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Internet Slowdown September 10 - Scope?

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2014-09-09 08:35:03 UTC
I'm having all kinds of internet difficulties at the moment. It seems i'm not the only one, and it's happening on both sides of the Atlantic. From what I found after a handful of searches of my favorite news sites for "Internet Slowdown September 10," the event is supposed to be symbolic, and not involve a literal slowdown of internet traffic.

but. has it become more than symbolic?

Also, will someone explain the legislation behind tomorrow's movement... in simple terms? What's the scope of the proposed change by ISPs involving "fast lanes" and premium bandwidth?

I'm in Los Angeles. I'm on Verizon FiOS, and my speeds reach 20 MB up / down (Megabytes with a capital M). A lot of pages are hanging and leaving me with "resolving host" type messages along the bottom of my browser.

o7 o7
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#2 - 2014-09-09 10:25:23 UTC
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-09-09 11:07:21 UTC
This is a call-to-arms I found and liked, which involves leaving a comment on the FCC site. The specifics are in the last lines of the article:

Blogs.findlaw.com

I have the FCC's comment form open, but it is a public filing that includes my name and address, which will become a matter of public record. and this makes me hesitant. I suppose I could leave a PO box or something.

My second best link to share is a Slate article that includes a funny satire piece on net neutrality. Like good satire, it's funny because it's true. Like great satire, it hasn't been debunked.

Slate.com

The FCC and Net Neutrality is an American agency and ruling, and it might not be directly related to what I'm experiencing, or even the state of my launcher. But without a solid reason to disconnect the issues completely, I'm keeping an open mind.

eve-offline.net shows a total player count of zero at 05:10, which marks the beginning of my DNS symptoms.

If TQ was 100% "up" then it was the rest of the world that was down. I don't know how likely that sounds to you, but apparently that's the story. a Mynnna Tweet localizing the issue to US providers Verizon and AT&T.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#4 - 2014-09-09 14:19:43 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
This is a call-to-arms I found and liked, which involves leaving a comment on the FCC site. The specifics are in the last lines of the article:

Blogs.findlaw.com

I have the FCC's comment form open, but it is a public filing that includes my name and address, which will become a matter of public record. and this makes me hesitant. I suppose I could leave a PO box or something.

My second best link to share is a Slate article that includes a funny satire piece on net neutrality. Like good satire, it's funny because it's true. Like great satire, it hasn't been debunked.

Slate.com

The FCC and Net Neutrality is an American agency and ruling, and it might not be directly related to what I'm experiencing, or even the state of my launcher. But without a solid reason to disconnect the issues completely, I'm keeping an open mind.

eve-offline.net shows a total player count of zero at 05:10, which marks the beginning of my DNS symptoms.

If TQ was 100% "up" then it was the rest of the world that was down. I don't know how likely that sounds to you, but apparently that's the story. a Mynnna Tweet localizing the issue to US providers Verizon and AT&T.


Thanks for the informative post, Rain. Ive been hearing about this for months on the radio, so sadly I dont think it's a hoax.

\m/ O.o \m/

"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2014-09-09 20:59:25 UTC
hah. maybe I'm late.

I set my Network Settings to Google's DNS servers (manually) 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, and also flushed Chrome's DNS cache, but I still had issues.

DNS fixes for Google Chrome and Windows on Webnots.com

at the moment my connectivity seems fine, but after yesterday I'm remaining suspicious.

tinfoil hatting rain thinks these drops could be due to experimental hotfixes on TQ. it just seems odd that TQ apparently had zero connections, but nobody is talking about it.
Solecist Project
#6 - 2014-09-10 00:10:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Greetings!


This seems to be important, although I have no idea what's going on.


I guess the very fact that I do not know what's going on ...
... but I probably should ...
... means that a layman's term explanation in the OP would be seriously helpfull. (hint!)


In case I do not overestimate the importance of this,
it would be seriously helpfull in case you want more attention. (hint!)


Also, I have no idea why you mention zero connections to TQ,
but I guess this would be important too?



Tell me what's going on.

Imagine I am a completely ignorant person that cares,
but is literally unable to filter out the relevant, necessary information.


Thanks.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#7 - 2014-09-10 00:35:02 UTC
Solecist - I was gonna type out a long explanation of things, but then my Pizza arrived, so here's a link :)

The fact the hardly anyone seems to know about this is in itself dusturbing, although it's just par for the course for the media here in the US.

\m/ O.o \m/

"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project

Solecist Project
#8 - 2014-09-10 00:55:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
:)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2014-09-10 00:59:57 UTC
o7

it was a fun thread while it lasted. not sure it will survive the night though



the lulzy part about the bulk of the movement is the fact that it's mostly symbolic. simulated loading sprites and pandemonium that doesn't amount to any real force. I suppose trolling the FCC site is about as effective as the internet will get, within limits.
Solecist Project
#10 - 2014-09-10 01:00:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
o7

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2014-09-10 01:05:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
Solecist Project
#12 - 2014-09-10 01:08:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
(:

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Solecist Project
#13 - 2014-09-10 01:19:41 UTC
I'll put it on my pile of regrets and remove the posts. :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2014-09-10 01:23:31 UTC
well basically, internet companies in the US are trying to remove the FCC's ability to regulate their operation. which is the basic job of the FCC. to put it simply, internet service providers in the US are trying to make it so their service can be restructured in a more profitable way. at the expense of neutral net traffic.

right now, all they can sell is bandwidth. raw throughput. under the proposed system, they can sell bandwidth based on what is being transmitted.

slightly more alarming is the fact that they've done underhanded things to discriminate based on content (comcast throttled netflix because it netflix and a paid service.)

it's possible this issue will pass, and that's great news for iSPs assuming that internet service is a given. but it's not.

in my wilder imaginations, I'm seeing a revolt on a national scale. think Incarna type of unsub threats but on a national scale.

I'm quick to write things off as a fool's errand, like the occupy movement and silly things like yellow ribbons. but if I'm motivated to do something about an issue like this, chances are a lot of people like me are motivated too.

I will cancel home internet service, and skillqueue for the next year from a surface pro install of EVE, using a public internet connection, in order to send a nice message to my ISP. for real.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-09-10 01:51:11 UTC
Comcast also owns a substantial portion of Hulu, which competes with Netflix. What's sad is that so many people buy Comcast's nonsense about Netflix and other content providers being "freeloaders" (which is far from the case) and support them in this.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-09-10 02:14:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Basically, "fast lanes" and "slow lanes" are not exactly what is happening here. The ISPs have their eyes on potential goldmines - they can essentially extort money out of content providers with the threat of giving them arbitrarily low packet priority on their networks. They know that by doing this, their customers would likely stop paying for those services if they run into stream buffering, long load times for websites, etc. and through that, the ISPs can leverage their effective monopolies against these content providers and make a load of money - which you won't ever see being invested into infrastructure, mind you.

The ISPs do not lack the infrastructure to handle all of that traffic from websites like Netflix. They do not lack the money to upgrade their infrastructure either, and the customers of those ISPs have paid for it many times over (yes, Comcast has seen a return on investment for their infrastructure, many times over, despite what they say about wanting to do paid prioritization to pay off their investments in their infrastructure) - ironically, it helps that Netflix and other services have a high bandwidth demand, because that drives uptake of higher-tier broadband packages.

You won't see net neutrality debates in any country where you actually have a choice between Internet providers, because the moment customers see a drop in performance, they'll switch ISPs. That simply isn't a choice for most people in the US.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#17 - 2014-09-10 03:17:52 UTC
The not corrupt solution of course being to reclassify broadband internet service, and honestly any internet service, as common carrier, and thus are restricted in the manner of their provision in the same manner as a power or water company.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#18 - 2014-09-10 05:28:01 UTC
Every year the USA seems to get just a little bit more **** to live in for average joeStraight
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2014-09-10 05:41:29 UTC
o7

so i'm wondering, what are the odds that TQ would experience dropped clients at 05:10 yesterday, and again today at 05:05?

also: CCP Explorer Tweet RE: TQ hotfixes
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-09-10 05:56:03 UTC
I doubt that has anything to do with what's going on in the US. Server hiccups happen.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

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