EVE General Discussion

No, but nice try. Did you enjoy being on the show?

Wardecs need rethinking too.

Only kids can think someone's an idiot. True story.

And yes, they are. They are just evading in a different way to you.

What version of English are you using? That isn't remotely saying that at all. It's saying that yes, high sec safety mechanics are unbalanced, but throwing them a nerf with no other changes would throw the balance out other way. Smaller changes to the other side would create balance.

Wrong. And the suggestion war mechanics themselves are not broken in any way is quite laughable.

Apparently the way to avoid deccers is to use the available mechanics to recreate your corp if you can, then worry about the more effort intensive ways if that's not an option. I don't really care what you do, since it's irrelevant. I live in null and so are unaffected by wardecs, therefore the way you are evading wardecs is doing it wrong as my way is superior. See how that sounds stupid? That's exactly the same way it sound when you go on about your way being the correct way.

And lol, again, I at no point said that dec dodging isn't broken, it's just not the only thing that's broken and would cause more harm than good if nuked on it's own.

I know, I know. I actually petitioned CCP for a change. It was funny until I started posting on the forums a lot with this character, having sold my old main.

All well.

What harm? That mythical loss of 'subs' you keep talking about but that has never happened in the entire recorded history of EVE?

How could war decs possibly be broken? you pay CONCORD a fee and you can shoot people in the DEc'd corp. Very simple.

Of course you probably have some overly protectionist idea that you should only be able to war dec 'certain' corps, which is wrong (why do you even play video games if you want such protection btw?)

. The only possible problem with the war dec system is that it's incomplete: NPC corps (except starter corps, which should hav e a TIME LIMIT) should be war deccable (at the price of the war deccing corp then going to war with the entire faction ie war dec the Scope, end up in a war with the Gallente Federation).

Cheers for posting the thing that is broken about Dec-Dodging.

YES

Its not a pain, it takes all of 5 minutes.

There is a lot of prejudice from nearly everyone posting in this thread. Including you.

On the one hand you have the 'I just want to exploit the broken mechanic to ensure risk free kills' people and on the other you have the 'I just want to exploit the broken mechanic to avoid losing ships' people.

At it's basic level, you are all agreeing on one thing. It's a broken mechanic. It will not be fixed by forcing people to stay in corp and it will not be fixed by forcing neutrals to be a part of the war. All I'm seeing is people wanting to keep their preferred exploit and taking away the one the other side is using.

What needs to happen is both sides getting together and hashing out a reworked system and not fighting each other over keeping it broken. It's like arguing over whether to use slaves or citizens to manufacture goods instead of coming up with the steam engine. It's a pointless waste of time.

Instead start a thread in F&I where both sides can brainstorm together to come up with a new system that works. Then make it known to our CSM reps that there is a thread and it's important for them to do their job and act upon the needs of the players who care enough to want to see this mechanic revamped to be a workable solution that is good for the game and not just some small niche that like their little exploit and don't want to see it changed.

Or just keep arguing over whether it's better to pull or push a box instead of working together to invent the wheel. Your choice.

Mr Epeen

Heretic

So treat the faction like an alliance, and every corp under it is now your enemy - move the starter corps to the Sisters of Eve Faction and that removes them from the danger zone. I'd be ok with that if you also lose the ability to dock at any station controlled by any of those member corporations (since you basically just declared war on a sovereign Empire) regardless of that station's location in space.



Red-frog is large enough that they would adapt. The station trading alts (like me) would be unaffected - I am literally in an NPC corp because I cannot be arsed to click the Create Corp button - a wardec would have just as much effect on me and my operations if I was in a player corp.