EVE General Discussion

Ah, I knew I'd catch you out sooner or later.

That's not all that's been suggested on this thread at all.

See, when I assert something, it's normally because I have the evidence already. I've been asserting that you haven't read this thread without a lot to go on. Now I have definitive proof. Your ignorance and bias have both been noted, logged, and substantiated, rendering further opinions from you on this topic irrelevant until you can demonstrate otherwise.

Thank you, please come again. Or not, it's up to you....

Sometimes the reason for a wardec is simple extortion. Pick a small hisec mining corp, dec em, either blow up a couple of barges or keep em stuck in station for a day or two.... then send your monetary demands. Sometimes the reason is simple griefing. Sometimes it's just for the fun of picking on the little guy. I know of one corp who, upon getting their first blops, decced and hotdropped some newb mining corp - because they could now. My own corp once dropped 3 bombers, 2 recons, and the blops itself on a single AF because we were bored and wanted to drop something. Should we have "picked a better target?"


Ive been reading this thread, and it's quite clear some of you just dont get it. "Choose better targets" wtf?? Lucas, take your ball and go home.

If you'd done that you'd know that CCPs financial situation has little to do with EVE.


That's bad conventional wisdom with a side of anxiety at losing a video game pastime.

The reason it's bad is because it's been disproved as many times as the "x new game will kill EVE" thing has been disproved. Look at the situations where the lay off occured: Incarna and WoD/Dust ie attempts to 'broaden' CCPs portfolio to appeal to more people.

No CCP is doing it in a smarter way: appealing to the kinds of people they already sell EVE to in Valkyrie ( a space combat shooter that will rope in all the "I wish my frigate had a joystick" dogfighting EVE types) and Legion (an FPS ON PC where it should have been that can work as a complement to EVE). Odds are CCP does better in a couple years than it ever has.

Your opinion is based on an emotion (anxiety, in this case at the potential loss of a video game) rather than reason, which is why it fails.



I'm a pve oriented player. Most of us are NOT pansies that can't deal with people in a video game setting waiting to quit at the 1st sign of adversity, rather we are explores in the mold of a space-Indiana Jones. You don't see Indy complaining in the movies so neither would we.

At no point do I believe that it's CCP's job to play EVE for me and I think that CCP should not be catering to those who do.

I really rather doubt that.

Either it lets me shoot people in highsec, or... well, there is no or. It has to be that way.

If they fix or punish dec dodging, all it will do is add the risk that was always intended to be in highsec, back into it. All that will happen is that, instead of flipping their corp for a few million isk, the dec dodgers will have to start sending a surrender offer.

Doesn't sound like some of carebear holocaust to me. Everyone is acting like taking a bit of safety away from highsec is the Biblical Apocalypse, when in reality it's bringing the game back into balance.

I'm not one to call for changes in the war mechanics of Eve as I believe they are fine with the exception of one thing; They are inherently worthless.

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LOL. So go after a corp with something to extort them for. A group with pocos or a pos or even just a good use of their offices is unlikely to avoid you. A group small enough to disband and recreated on a whime is not going to be able to pay you anything.

So yes, pick better targets. Stop whining that the weakest softest targets don't want to submit to being your fodder. They are using available mechanics to escape your attacks. Get over it.

And yet they are still broadening that portfolio with a PC FPS and a dogfighting flight sim.

Erm... what? It's based on hard evidence. Your the one prancing around chanting CCP and acting like nothing has changed. Note that this year they didn't celebrate the increase in sub numbers like every other year. Interesting that.

And that's great! Most of you don't disband corps to avoid wardecs. What we are talking about is a tiny minority of the smallest and weakest groups of players with absolutely no ties to their corps. Why should whole systems be changed just so wardeccers can stroke their epeen while stamping on those tiny insignificant groups?

If they fix or punish dec dodging, then those that did it before would stay in NPC corps. Then you'd be back here whining about how NPC corps need more punishments.

And yet, the "challenge" of selecting a target that won't disband their corp seems to be too much for you to handle. We're not asking for a themepark, I'm even in favour of most of the ideas to pevent dec dodging and limit NPC corps, it just shouldn't be the ONLY change.

Simple question: You do understand that it's possible for a game to be too easy for an aggressor too, right? Just because they are inflicting space violence doesn't mean they should have to put zero thought into that process. That's what I want to avoid. Limit wardecs AND limit dec dodging/NPC corp benefits.

Have they ever known any other experience though, in order to be properly informed about what they're voting for? Cuz, you know, misinformed voters can, on occasion, be wrong.