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Interest In A Garden Complex?
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Kucial Kinan
Kinani Consortium
#1 - 2014-09-08 21:07:25 UTC
I seek to know whether there would be interest in a public garden for capsuleers to visit. If it were to be constructed and made available, there would be a variety of sections each with a different function and associated level of public access. While the sections would have differentiated degrees of public access, there would of course be limitations for the entirety of the complex. Nobody would be allowed entrance that proclaims loyalty to the usual list of undesirables such as the Sabik cult, Angels, etcetera. There would be a chapel area present for special services or peaceful worship and study. No heretical usage of such areas would be permitted, of course. There would also naturally be areas for socializing, as well.

Is this concept of interest or is the cluster sufficiently filled with public complexes? If so, no harm done - I can keep my facilities for private gatherings.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#2 - 2014-09-08 21:53:32 UTC
Places where the faithful and law-abiding capsuleers of the cluster may gather without fear of running into the pirate that ransomed them last week are always welcome.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-09-08 23:53:51 UTC
Hmm.
Does it mean it will be closed for foreigners?

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Kucial Kinan
Kinani Consortium
#4 - 2014-09-09 02:39:59 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Hmm.
Does it mean it will be closed for foreigners?


No, there would be areas where foreigners would be allowed to attend. But it would certainly have a watchful security presence that would not hesitate to act according to their own judgment.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#5 - 2014-09-09 02:47:14 UTC
Kucial Kinan wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Hmm.
Does it mean it will be closed for foreigners?


No, there would be areas where foreigners would be allowed to attend. But it would certainly have a watchful security presence that would not hesitate to act according to their own judgment.

My sister would be happy to provide security on our days Kimmy would attend.....

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Kucial Kinan
Kinani Consortium
#6 - 2014-09-09 02:57:18 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Kucial Kinan wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Hmm.
Does it mean it will be closed for foreigners?


No, there would be areas where foreigners would be allowed to attend. But it would certainly have a watchful security presence that would not hesitate to act according to their own judgment.

My sister would be happy to provide security on our days Kimmy would attend.....


If the complex is modified and opened to the public, it is unlikely she would survive the initial creation of a blacklist due to the likelihood of her disturbing the peace.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#7 - 2014-09-09 03:20:29 UTC
Normally I venture home or to the Basilica when I feel the urge to get out and spend quiet time near gardens, but a change in venue is always welcome.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#8 - 2014-09-09 05:29:47 UTC
Kucial Kinan wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Kucial Kinan wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Hmm.
Does it mean it will be closed for foreigners?


No, there would be areas where foreigners would be allowed to attend. But it would certainly have a watchful security presence that would not hesitate to act according to their own judgment.

My sister would be happy to provide security on our days Kimmy would attend.....


If the complex is modified and opened to the public, it is unlikely she would survive the initial creation of a blacklist due to the likelihood of her disturbing the peace.

Dust mercs are known for surviving a lot of unlikely things. Even more so when they trend towards heavy armor and HMG's

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#9 - 2014-09-09 11:12:06 UTC
Kucial Kinan wrote:

Is this concept of interest or is the cluster sufficiently filled with public complexes? If so, no harm done - I can keep my facilities for private gatherings.


Gardens are dime a dozen - I can think of maybe a few of them who don't have such areas - whether for the enjoyment and leisure of their inhabitants or simple hydroponic operation.

If you plan on making one, I'd advise it being something more specific and unique - I'm afraid the idea of 'keeping undesireables out' simply won't cut it.
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Kucial Kinan
Kinani Consortium
#10 - 2014-09-09 13:26:05 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Kucial Kinan wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Kucial Kinan wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Hmm.
Does it mean it will be closed for foreigners?


No, there would be areas where foreigners would be allowed to attend. But it would certainly have a watchful security presence that would not hesitate to act according to their own judgment.

My sister would be happy to provide security on our days Kimmy would attend.....


If the complex is modified and opened to the public, it is unlikely she would survive the initial creation of a blacklist due to the likelihood of her disturbing the peace.

Dust mercs are known for surviving a lot of unlikely things. Even more so when they trend towards heavy armor and HMG's


I was referencing her 'disturbing the peace' in the sense of rendering it uncomfortable and unpleasant for other guests - not in the sense of actually being dangerous.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#11 - 2014-09-09 13:41:40 UTC
Kucial Kinan wrote:
I was referencing her 'disturbing the peace' in the sense of rendering it uncomfortable and unpleasant for other guests - not in the sense of actually being dangerous.

The irony here is that odds are it would be Diana making it uncomfortable and unpleasant for others with her usual outbursts, not someone else.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque
Kucial Kinan
Kinani Consortium
#12 - 2014-09-09 13:49:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Kucial Kinan
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Kucial Kinan wrote:
I was referencing her 'disturbing the peace' in the sense of rendering it uncomfortable and unpleasant for other guests - not in the sense of actually being dangerous.

The irony here is that odds are it would be Diana making it uncomfortable and unpleasant for others with her usual outbursts, not someone else.


I apologize for being unclear. I was referring to Diana Kim this entire time. My initial comment was intended to convey that people attending in order to 'handle' Kim is unnecessary, because she is unlikely to survive the initial blacklist upon opening.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#13 - 2014-09-09 14:01:13 UTC
Fair enough. Considering Miss Osyn's usual commentary and behavior towards Diana on these forums it seemed like it could have referred either to her sister or Diana.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque
Kucial Kinan
Kinani Consortium
#14 - 2014-09-09 14:22:15 UTC
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Fair enough. Considering Miss Osyn's usual commentary and behavior towards Diana on these forums it seemed like it could have referred either to her sister or Diana.


I realized the ease of confusion when I reread my words. Due to these sort of concerns about security and maintaining a pleasant atmosphere, I will be reaching out to others that have more awareness of prominent capsuleer personalities that may become problematic. If possible, I may seek out others to help manage the list of those barred from entrance so as to keep the proper atmosphere when my duties take me elsewhere.
Lucien Rouen
#15 - 2014-09-09 16:10:40 UTC
Why does everyone open gardens, fine dining, or dive bars? Where are all the actual clubs?
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#16 - 2014-09-09 16:51:56 UTC
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Fair enough. Considering Miss Osyn's usual commentary and behavior towards Diana on these forums it seemed like it could have referred either to her sister or Diana.

We can blame Kimmy for everything. I like that plan, it is now all Kimmy's fault.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#17 - 2014-09-10 07:13:12 UTC
Lucien Rouen wrote:
Why does everyone open gardens, fine dining, or dive bars? Where are all the actual clubs?


Downstairs, usually.
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Angels are never far...

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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-09-10 07:52:05 UTC
Lucien Rouen wrote:
Why does everyone open gardens, fine dining, or dive bars? Where are all the actual clubs?


My colonies have open-roof coffee houses and public plazas. Some of the technicians had formed bands. I pretend I am blind whenever they start playing drums, guitars, fiddles, dulcimers, accordions and harmonicas, as well as dancing in circles, at the dead of the night in their local time zones. Nobody has complained about it yet.

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Anatole Madullier
Alexylva Paradox
#19 - 2014-09-10 10:26:23 UTC
Lucien Rouen wrote:
Why does everyone open gardens, fine dining, or dive bars? Where are all the actual clubs?


I should start a rave again shouldn't I?
Outdoor raves in a garden? This has potential!

ॐ
Lucien Rouen
#20 - 2014-09-10 15:23:40 UTC
Anatole Madullier wrote:
Lucien Rouen wrote:
Why does everyone open gardens, fine dining, or dive bars? Where are all the actual clubs?


I should start a rave again shouldn't I?
Outdoor raves in a garden? This has potential!


Yes, yes you should. The dreary bars and uppity gardens/restaurants get old. Nobody seems to want to have a good time.
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