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Giant bomb has the right idea about eve online

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Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
#21 - 2014-09-07 01:07:02 UTC
Yorkie McPorkie wrote:
Ned Thomas wrote:
Wtf is World of Warcraft?


I believe it is a game where you collect ten wolf pelts and deliver them to a gnome or some such.



I'm sorry. I just didn't know better all these years. Sad
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#22 - 2014-09-07 07:46:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Hint: IRL, I'm a huge wolf conservationist. If one was actually eating me, I'd still tell people not to kill it.


A Darwin's Law approved post and stamped by the Darwin Awards committee.



It's only a Darwin Award if I'm out deliberately screwing around where wild wolves live and trying to play with them like I think they're regular dogs.

If I happen along a pack that is somewhere other than where they're supposed to be, and this situation arises through no fault of my own, it'd really be more of an altruistic self-sacrifice.

Learn to critical thinking.

No, I'm pretty sure telling people not to kill the thing that is eating you for any reason and under any circumstances is worthy of a Darwin Award.

Of course, we all know that altruistic attitude would disappear completely the moment fang actually pierced skin for the first time (if not before) so it's all pretty academic.

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#23 - 2014-09-07 07:58:48 UTC
That graph doesn't fit. Blizzard nerfed complexity and hardcore Dave left the game years ago, after WotLK hit.

Remove standings and insurance.
Miyammato Musashi
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
#24 - 2014-09-07 08:07:02 UTC
*sigh*

I want to agree with this assessment. But I can't.

This is going to sound arrogant as hell, and maybe it is, but I put very little effort into the game at this point. Initially, yes, I would say for your first two years it behooves on to put in extraordinary effort into this game. It's not an easy one, that's for sure.

Casual chris will die in this game. That's all he will do. He'll hate it. The chart is 100% dead-on there.

However, you can't make a blanket statement like this. Once you've put in the effort, and found at least 3-4 playstyles you dig and rock at, you can absolutely play this game casually and with little effort. For me the red line was realizing... deeply... that this is a game about playing other players. If you fundamentally comprehend that you will stop mining and running missions. That's when the game actually gets fun to the point where you are ruined for other games and roll your eyes at other MMOs.

I don't even keep up with MMO news anymore. I just don't care.

It's actually a nice saving grace for me personally. If I hadn't found EvE I might be playing lame MMOs forever trying to find what's natively available here. Do our CCP overlords know how to manage their company and advance the gameplay at a reasonable pace? Hell no. But... just as EvE has been dieing all of these years, I don't think EvE will ever die. The philosophy of the game overwhelms the lackluster performance of the Devs. There simply isn't anything like it anywhere. It's the best game ever made.

That's the ugly truth.

EvE is not inaccesible. It's an easy game to play. It's just hard to understand.

I am a meat popsicle. 
Slick Entry
Doomheim
#25 - 2014-09-07 08:33:25 UTC
Due to its sandbox nature EVE is not an inherently challenging game. Some activities are more challenging than others, and some have virtually no challenge at all.

The biggest challenge new players have with EVE is navigating the horrific UI.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2014-09-07 08:45:03 UTC
in occasional moments of lucidity I realize i've broken the game for myself. it feels like super mario bros 3.

Help, I can't download EVE

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MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#27 - 2014-09-07 10:28:29 UTC
heh
Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#28 - 2014-09-07 10:43:10 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:


Comparing EVE to Super Mario Brothers.. no nothing wrong with that at all..

Your head....

That's awesome, brings back memories of the old and much more awesome character creator.

/ derail
Euridice Stardust
Intergalactic Travel Agency
#29 - 2014-09-07 11:40:30 UTC
Farmville is rated quite high in fun compared to Eve imo.

second
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-09-07 14:48:49 UTC
Ezwal, I saw you like my post!! That's the second post of mine that you've liked on these forums now, what's going on? Are you actually enjoying my antics?

Falcon liked one too the other day, it made me blush a little. He's so sexy.

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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#31 - 2014-09-07 16:09:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Ranger 1 wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Hint: IRL, I'm a huge wolf conservationist. If one was actually eating me, I'd still tell people not to kill it.


A Darwin's Law approved post and stamped by the Darwin Awards committee.



It's only a Darwin Award if I'm out deliberately screwing around where wild wolves live and trying to play with them like I think they're regular dogs.

If I happen along a pack that is somewhere other than where they're supposed to be, and this situation arises through no fault of my own, it'd really be more of an altruistic self-sacrifice.

Learn to critical thinking.

No, I'm pretty sure telling people not to kill the thing that is eating you for any reason and under any circumstances is worthy of a Darwin Award.

Of course, we all know that altruistic attitude would disappear completely the moment fang actually pierced skin for the first time (if not before) so it's all pretty academic.


I was in the war (the real one... not some in-game war.... but I was in that, too). I'm pretty sure being eaten by a wolf is far preferable to teaching a brand-new 2LT how to land nav.

Also: if the wolf is already eating me, chances are, I'm going to die whether you kill the wolf, or not. If I'm still alive while this is happening, shoot ME instead of the wolf. He's got a decent meal... I, on the other hand, am far less happy.

Again.... critical thinking is your friend. Your jock-level stretch for any old insult isn't very becoming.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2014-09-07 21:53:20 UTC
"Fun" on the X-axis is the lie, amirite. "Effort" too. this thread is just a big dutch rudder of people who want to think EVE is leet. but it's not. how far do you think I'd get quadboxing, dodecaboxing LoL? if eve is fun, how come it's so popular? it's a good thing the loss is measured in real dollars, cuz tournament prizes sure as hell aren't.

Help, I can't download EVE

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#33 - 2014-09-08 02:44:29 UTC
Ned Thomas wrote:
Wtf is World of Warcraft?


It's kind of like this game except that it is an online chat room for fantasy nerds whereas EVE is an online chat room for space nerds.

Mr Epeen Cool
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#34 - 2014-09-08 02:51:49 UTC
Came expecting a Doomsday Device that would eliminate everything undocked in 3-5 systems. Damn.... back to WOT
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#35 - 2014-09-08 03:19:06 UTC
pretty sure EVE is one of the lowest APM games out there. guarantee it's the lowest in tidi. at least those other games are relevant and people know what you're talking about. saying i play eve is such a conversation non-starter, nowadays I just say I play battlefield.

Help, I can't download EVE

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PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Tomiko Kawase
Perkone
#36 - 2014-09-08 05:02:38 UTC
Seems like a lot of duders in here, but the Giantbomb channel in game is "giantbombing"

Hope to see some duders around~

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2014-09-08 05:32:17 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
pretty sure EVE is one of the lowest APM games out there. guarantee it's the lowest in tidi. at least those other games are relevant and people know what you're talking about. saying i play eve is such a conversation non-starter, nowadays I just say I play battlefield.

Because APM is the measure of a good game. Roll

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2014-09-08 05:41:22 UTC
it's still more solid than "fun" and "effort." try plotting games including eve by APM and player base, see what you get.

Help, I can't download EVE

President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub

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Komi Toran
Perkone
Caldari State
#39 - 2014-09-08 06:08:45 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Again.... critical thinking is your friend. Your jock-level stretch for any old insult isn't very becoming.

It's a man-eating wolf. While it may be nice of you to offer yourself as a last meal, critical thinking requires it gets a bullet, which is why the gnome will give you 50 copper if you kill 10.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2014-09-08 09:26:59 UTC
Yorkie McPorkie wrote:
Ned Thomas wrote:
Wtf is World of Warcraft?


I believe it is a game where you collect ten wolf pelts and deliver them to a gnome or some such.


I saw a friend of mine collecting spider eyes and almost all of them had less than 2 in total. What kind of spiders are those?
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