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How Long Until Drones are Finally Nerfed
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Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-09-05 21:17:39 UTC
So we have all been saying drones are OP except for the few that just trained to fly an Ishtar. The alliance tournament seems to confirm this. So, how long until the new dawn for the turret. The drone meta is getting boring now, and I am looking forward to it being shaken up. So how long do we have to wait?
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-09-05 21:30:22 UTC
I can't fly an Ishtar and I have said nothing of the sort.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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Mr Omniblivion
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-09-05 21:31:57 UTC
I think you mean "Sentry Drones"
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4 - 2014-09-05 21:32:59 UTC
Next Friday at 3PM, or not.

It's unclear. Whenever I shake this thing the answers change.



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Chad Ramsbottom
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-09-05 21:33:59 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Next Friday at 3PM, or not.

It's unclear. Whenever I shake this thing the answers change.





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111kartel111
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-09-05 21:35:39 UTC
Medalyn Isis wrote:
So we have all been saying drones are OP except for the few that just trained to fly an Ishtar. The alliance tournament seems to confirm this. So, how long until the new dawn for the turret. The drone meta is getting boring now, and I am looking forward to it being shaken up. So how long do we have to wait?


Please expand on the we part ? do you have a mouse in your pocket?.
Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-09-05 21:36:12 UTC
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
I think you mean "Sentry Drones"

Nope, the whole drone system needs a rebalance. The fact that no one was using smart bombs in the tournament shows that the natural counter to drones isn't working.
Dave Stark
#8 - 2014-09-05 21:36:16 UTC
Medalyn Isis wrote:
So we have all been saying drones are OP except for the few that just trained to fly an Ishtar. The alliance tournament seems to confirm this. So, how long until the new dawn for the turret. The drone meta is getting boring now, and I am looking forward to it being shaken up. So how long do we have to wait?


the AT is to pvp what porn is to sex.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2014-09-05 21:39:05 UTC
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
I think you mean "Sentry Drones"

Nope, the whole drone system needs a rebalance. The fact that no one was using smart bombs in the tournament shows that the natural counter to drones isn't working.


AT is a poor thing to judge balance on. It is indeed just the sentries that a causing issues.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-09-05 21:41:12 UTC
TIL You have to train for Ishtar to use drones. Amazing.

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Paranoid Loyd
#11 - 2014-09-05 21:41:32 UTC
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
I think you mean "Sentry Drones"

Nope, the whole drone system needs a rebalance. The fact that no one was using smart bombs in the tournament shows that the natural counter to drones isn't working.


What a strong grasp of game mechanics you have there. Roll

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-09-05 21:52:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Medalyn Isis
baltec1 wrote:
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
I think you mean "Sentry Drones"

Nope, the whole drone system needs a rebalance. The fact that no one was using smart bombs in the tournament shows that the natural counter to drones isn't working.


AT is a poor thing to judge balance on. It is indeed just the sentries that a causing issues.

Drones where better when they where a secondary weapon system imo. The reason I suggest an overall rebalance is to reduce the affect of the lame tactics which come with drones.

One idea is to fix the drone size to a specific class of ship. For instance a BS should only be able to equip / get bonuses to heavy drones. Turrets have that restriction, drones don't have it only because they weren't intended as a primary weapon system. Stuff like that needs ironing out.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-09-05 21:59:28 UTC
Medalyn Isis wrote:
So we have all been saying drones are OP
no WE haven't. You don't speak for me and don't pretend you speak for the silent majority.

The ships that use them might be unbalanced but drones themselves are not OP.
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#14 - 2014-09-05 22:04:45 UTC
Drones are fine. There are a few problematic subcaps (Ishtar, VNI) where the problem largely stems from a highly mobile cruiser having the damage projection of a battleship via sentries. Likewise, sentries are also problematic on carriers.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-09-05 22:11:47 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Drones are fine. There are a few problematic subcaps (Ishtar, VNI) where the problem largely stems from a highly mobile cruiser having the damage projection of a battleship via sentries. Likewise, sentries are also problematic on carriers.


This has nothing to do with terrible pilots burning straight at sentry drones. Nope nothing at all.

I mean the world will end if baddies don't immediately fire up their MWD and burn in for the tackle.

The prefered drones for an Ishtar are heavies btw, unless you're going to go mess with low IQ gate or station campers and there is no shortage of them.

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Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-09-05 22:13:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Medalyn Isis
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Drones are fine. There are a few problematic subcaps (Ishtar, VNI) where the problem largely stems from a highly mobile cruiser having the damage projection of a battleship via sentries. Likewise, sentries are also problematic on carriers.

Yes I'd agree, although heavy drones are still far too powerful for a cruiser. The pace of change is very slow. Restricting drones to their specific class of ship, or at least their bonuses, would be a quick solution. I was hoping the alliance tournament might be a wake up call though for CCP to get their act together. The Ishtar nerf was insignificant in comparison to the problem.
Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-09-05 22:15:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Steppa Musana
baltec1 wrote:
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
I think you mean "Sentry Drones"

Nope, the whole drone system needs a rebalance. The fact that no one was using smart bombs in the tournament shows that the natural counter to drones isn't working.


AT is a poor thing to judge balance on. It is indeed just the sentries that a causing issues.

Yep, this. Perhaps the Gila hull itself is a bit OP too.

Although I would prefer to not see sentries removed from cruisers entirely. Perhaps a lower DPS, better tracking "light sentry" could work.

Hey guys.
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#18 - 2014-09-05 22:17:17 UTC
Sentamon wrote:

The prefered drones for an Ishtar are heavies btw, unless you're going to go mess with low IQ gate or station campers and there is no shortage of them.

Not in every single pvp engagement involving ishtars that I've seen/partaken in over the past year or so.

PvE dudes might use heavies, but no one does ship balance around pve content.
Mr Omniblivion
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-09-05 22:27:58 UTC
Medalyn Isis wrote:

Yes I'd agree, although heavy drones are still far too powerful for a cruiser. The pace of change is very slow. Restricting drones to their specific class of ship, or at least their bonuses, would be a quick solution. I was hoping the alliance tournament might be a wake up call though for CCP to get their act together. The Ishtar nerf was insignificant in comparison to the problem.


What about afk cloakers with drones?
Paranoid Loyd
#20 - 2014-09-05 22:28:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Steppa Musana wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
I think you mean "Sentry Drones"

Nope, the whole drone system needs a rebalance. The fact that no one was using smart bombs in the tournament shows that the natural counter to drones isn't working.


AT is a poor thing to judge balance on. It is indeed just the sentries that a causing issues.

Yep, this. Perhaps the Gila hull itself is a bit OP too.

Although I would prefer to not see sentries removed from cruisers entirely. Perhaps a lower DPS, better tracking "light sentry" could work.


Did I read this right? You are using sentries with your Gila?

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
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