EVE General Discussion

It's not subscribers, but subscriptions... that's one meaningful difference as one subscriber can have (and in EVE, MUST HAVE) more than one subscription.

In terms of how many people care about the game, EVE is a niche game. Even a promise of a future game can attract more people just for being outside of a fringe niche and more into the mainstream of interest in the genre.

As I said a few times, we old farts never played a game like EVE, as no game like EVE existed. But we played Elite, Wing Commander and the such.

The only thing that potentially could wipe the floor with SC, would be something like X-Wing Online...

Tbh, I think that the greatest threat EVE could ever face is if Euro Truck Simulator went MMO.

Oh man, I disagree. This game offers so many options, most of which can unlock relatively quickly, that if someone is bored it's because they havent yet "built their portfolio," so to speak. The game offers so many viable options that one can pick between being semi-afk, only half-assed paying attention, or having to pay complete attention to every detail, every second. I'll use myself as an example:

1 and 1.5 - PVP - Probably my favorite activity, and Im not even all that good at it (yet, right?) Along with this high-pressure activity comes what I consider to be very fun as well, and that's EFT-ing new ships, different creative ways of using ships (like doing the shield/nano thing with armor-tanking ships) etc. I sometimes spend almost all my time on EFT. It in and of itself is like a seperate strategy game game, to me anyway.

2. PVE - /shrug Some ppl like it. Incursions can pay out mad money if that's your thing.

3. Trading - Most of my money these days come's from trading. IMO its the perfect way to make cash, because I can go afk whenever I want, for how I want to,, and the wallet just keeps on blinking. One can get a "good enough" trader in about 8 days, provided it's just going to be a re-seller, for example buying goods in jita and bringing them to Dixie to sell. Very mellow, Im often doing other things online, trolling the forums here or Facebook, and listening to music, which isnt practical in a group PVP or PVE setting because you have to be on comms, etc.

Exploration - Not as good as it was before so many people got into it, but there's still really good (sometimes ridiculous) money to be made doing relic sites in null. Plus you get the added fun of trying to prevent yourself from hitting a bubble and/or getting popped by the locals. Being in danger is fun! It is for me, anyway.

DED Sites - Dont bother in hisec, but go out to lowsec and start scanning down combat sites. There's a lot more of them all over the place than u may think. They keep my attention for a while when I need to up security status and whatnot. Plus, I think it's a lot of fun getting faction and deadspace mods. It's like finding hidden treasure :D

Scamming - I hear there's money in that too. :D

Others can probably come up with additional things to do, the above are just the ones that I do, and yeah after a while each one gets boring, so I switch it up and do something else till I get bored with it, move on to the next one, etc. Eve boredom is going to happen with any activity,the key, imo, is to have a list of things you're interested in and provide yourself with alternatives when any 1 particular activity gets boring.

You have to be the goat

You guys suck.

The reports of EVE's death are as usual greatly exaggerated. But I am noticing that there is no more talk of a game that is steadily growing in subscription numbers. That is not a good sign. But there is less reason to run multiple accounts than there used to be, and that could account for some of the slowdown. For me, Eve is just too much of a time sink. I keep re-subbing this account just so I can troll the forums when I want to.

as i said, i understand why they have not said the eve sub numbers, if dust was a failure, we can quickly calculate that. And then you would have a bigger jita riot.

No, what you are trying to say is:

Hey i see less cars on the road today, that means there are less people driving in the world, awesome!

Except there is no evidence to support your claim.

Using eve offline to support the claim that there are less people subscribed to eve is a false arugment, becuase thats NOT what eve-offline shows. Can it be used as a tool with other things to show that there are less people? why yes it can. Can it be used by its self with no other evidence? no.

Your three points together, show decently that yes eve is down subs, thats proven in the finances. But no it actually is not at the same time. All three make a big case, but you still don;t have enough info to fully claim eve is down subs

You better start drinking then, as I will not lock your thread at this time.

Rest assured that at that time I will still be around to moderate the shiptoasting ranting thread from hell that ensues after that fight about the unfairness of A. Neutral repping, and B. Faction Titans.

Sadly I have to refute my previous statement on the matter, as in this instance the prediction of The Great Karnak is slightly in error as I will not lock this thread on grounds of discussing forum moderation. Or at all at this moment in time for that matter.


Having said that, I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

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Thread re-opened.

oh it was not an assurance, it was a bored post while i was at work, that wound up in a locked thread, so i wanted to post it, as i spent some type typing lol