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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#21 - 2014-09-05 18:57:54 UTC
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#22 - 2014-09-05 18:59:18 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Ray Zyrus wrote:
Can anyone explain to me how or why the PLEX prices get so rediculous?



Supply and demand.


It's the only thing in the game that is based on supply and demand.
There is no way for players to cartel Plex. If I have a mind to go buy 3 Plex, 30 Plex, they are in Jita with no logistics, they are sold with no manipulations.

Had CCP started the Plex side of EVE with a monthly cap, things would be very different but that's a coulda, woulda, shoulda scenario. They sell 500 a month, they sell 5 million, it's all an option.
Deheler
Muggers Inc.
#23 - 2014-09-05 19:05:06 UTC
Cameron Freerunner wrote:
The prices are actually coming down since the implosion of blinky and friends.
I think it has more to do with the introduction of the new Multiple Pilot Training Certificate. It can be bought in the NES for 3500 AURUM and used for Dual Character training (just as PLEX)
A lot of (older) Pilots still have substantial amounts of AURUM lying around from when it was given away as promotion by CCP.
Easy way to get 700-750 million....Blink

They started quite a bit lower on the market compared to PLEX, but prices are gradually drifting toward each other. MPTC is going up, PLEX is going down.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#24 - 2014-09-05 19:06:37 UTC
This ? AGAIN ?


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Josef Djugashvilis
#25 - 2014-09-05 19:09:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
It is all part of the plot by the New World Oder to control the masses.

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Leoric Firesword
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2014-09-05 19:21:28 UTC
Calling for CCP to make a sticky link to their economic panel from fanfest. give it a witty title having something to do with people whining about plex prices.
RoAnnon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2014-09-05 19:26:40 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
There weren't even wormholes yet when PLEX was that cheap.


I bought my first plex in May 2010 for 233M and was outraged it was so expensive...

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Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
#28 - 2014-09-05 19:40:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Charax Bouclier
Since the concept of inflation is so troubling, despite the fact that your purchasing power is unchanged, I suggest that we replace the deflated ISK with a new galactic currency, the Quatloo.

1 Quatloo will be valued at 1,000,000 ISK. Accordingly, PLEX can be acquired for the very low price of 800 Quatloos. Only 800 Quatloos, you say? I'll buy a dozen PLEX, please and thank you!!
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#29 - 2014-09-05 19:48:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Charax Bouclier wrote:
Since the concept of inflation is so troubling, despite the fact that your purchasing power is unchanged, I suggest that we replace the deflated ISK with a new galactic currency, the Quatloo.

I'll stick with ₩oolongs. That, and the tears of the usual self-entitled and nay-saying idiots which flow more greatly than all the isk faucets in EVE.

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Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#30 - 2014-09-05 19:51:31 UTC
Ray Zyrus wrote:
Can anyone explain to me how or why the PLEX prices get so rediculous?

they started out at 430 million isk and now they are almost at 800 million. it gets pretty tough for me to pay the account nowadays.

so i know that there sights that are called plexes but aside from that i have no further knowledge about where they are come from.
I just buy them in the market and redeem them.

but if the trend of the rising prices continues i might need to get into these sights to earn a living.

definitely not gonna pay my account with real cash....



If you can't afford $12/mo for a hobby you most likely play dozens of hours/week, maybe you should spend less time flying spaceships and more time looking for a better job IRL...
Cameron Freerunner
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2014-09-05 20:26:37 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
If you can't afford $12/mo for a hobby you most likely play dozens of hours/week, maybe you should spend less time flying spaceships and more time looking for a better job IRL...

Money is real and finite. ISK is fake and infinite.
Fr3akwave
Mercury Arms Inc.
Ghostbirds
#32 - 2014-09-05 20:30:49 UTC
Ray Zyrus wrote:
[...]
it gets pretty tough for me to pay the account nowadays.
[...]
definitely not gonna pay my account with real cash....


Why not? Is it not worth it for you? Is EVE such a bad game that you would not want to play if you cannot play to play?

(There is no typo.)
Tolkaz Khamsi
Empire Reclamation Services
#33 - 2014-09-05 20:38:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Tolkaz Khamsi
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
If you can't afford $12/mo for a hobby you most likely play dozens of hours/week, maybe you should spend less time flying spaceships and more time looking for a better job IRL...


So much this. When I buy Plex (for about $20US), I do it because grinding out the ISK I'd need to buy whatever shiny new ship I want just isn't worth the hours of my life I'd have to spend doing it. I pay my sub a year at a time, and at ~$15 a month it's one of the cheapest hobbies I have. Trying to grind ISK to pay my sub would involve hours and hours of unfun ISK grinding in-game, and my time is worth way, way more than that to me.

Given the RL cost of a Plex is around $20US, that means that the conversion rate is 800M ISK = $20 USD. (More or less.) If it takes me more than an hour to grind 800M ISK in game (and it does, by a lot), then trying to grind Plex to play a game so I can grind more Plex to play a game to grind more Plex...it sounds like a very un-fun kind of hell. But again: maybe it isn't to other people, so if my buying PLEX helps them out, great.

PLEX is a way for me to subcontract out my ISK grinding to other people, is the way I look at it. Lots of people are willing to do that grinding, it turns out, so demand for PLEX in-game is high. Ergo, prices go up.
Tolkaz Khamsi
Empire Reclamation Services
#34 - 2014-09-05 20:44:25 UTC
Eve's economy is terribly inflationary as well, which impacts PLEX prices. Too many ISK sources and not enough sinks. You can say that the cost for a PLEX has risen from 450M ISK to 800M ISK, or you can say that the value of ISK has fallen by about half. It's the same thing. There's too much ISK in the game.
Kudos12345
Doomheim
#35 - 2014-09-05 20:46:04 UTC
I think the only way to fix PLEX prices is to contact your local political representative, assuming you live in a country that has one and demand that PLEX be added to the necessities of life along milk, bread and clean drinking water. In other words the reason plex prices are ridiculous is simple, the lack of communal will to share the wealth.
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2014-09-05 20:57:25 UTC
Problem is, what people are willing to pay for PLEX is set by the richer half of New Eden. To me, and I imagine others, my almighty dollar has much more value than several hundred million ISK so I use the latter to pay my sub. For an established player making several billion a month, 800m ISK isn't a terrible price to pay to stay in the sky. For a player of a few months who is wondering whether this habit is worth over $150 a year, 800m ISK can be too much.
Marsha Mallow
#37 - 2014-09-05 21:07:08 UTC
Ocih wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Ray Zyrus wrote:
Can anyone explain to me how or why the PLEX prices get so rediculous?



Supply and demand.


It's the only thing in the game that is based on supply and demand.

Straight
Ocih wrote:
There is no way for players to cartel Plex

Straight
Ocih wrote:
If I have a mind to go buy 3 Plex, 30 Plex, they are in Jita with no logistics, they are sold with no manipulations.

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Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#38 - 2014-09-05 21:08:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Cidanel Afuran
Cameron Freerunner wrote:
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
If you can't afford $12/mo for a hobby you most likely play dozens of hours/week, maybe you should spend less time flying spaceships and more time looking for a better job IRL...

Money is real and finite. ISK is fake and infinite.


Wrong. Time is real and finite. If you spend an hour IRL 'grinding' out money, you can make enough to buy a plex faster than you ever can in-game. If making enough ISK to plex an account is costing you more time than making dollars to buy a plex, you are doing it wrong.

To say it again, if $12/mo (a few cents/hour to most of us) is too expensive for you, you might want to stop playing video games for a bit.
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#39 - 2014-09-05 21:17:56 UTC
Joshua Foiritain wrote:
Absolutely Not Analt wrote:
Actually I remember when PLEX were in the 300 million ISK range, so sperg on noob.

90 day game time cards were 430 mill many, many years ago. Cry

I remember buying a 90 day GTC for 200mil and something a while back...
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#40 - 2014-09-05 21:18:52 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
Cameron Freerunner wrote:
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
If you can't afford $12/mo for a hobby you most likely play dozens of hours/week, maybe you should spend less time flying spaceships and more time looking for a better job IRL...

Money is real and finite. ISK is fake and infinite.


Wrong. Time is real and finite. If you spend an hour IRL 'grinding' out money, you can make enough to buy a plex faster than you ever can in-game. If making enough ISK to plex an account is costing you more time than making dollars to buy a plex, you are doing it wrong.

To say it again, if $12/mo (a few cents/hour to most of us) is too expensive for you, you might want to stop playing video games for a bit.


That's the same old nonsense it always is. Nothing wrong with paying a sub but working a job to do it instead of being at home playing a video game drunk for a bit longer to do the same thing is what's doing it wrong.