Wormholes

WD:

So what will end up happening is people will use a ****** no implant alt with the cheapest ship to close a WH. Your end result is they will risk nothing at all, the Hyperion change at least forces them to risk something they may want to fight to protect while they are trying to achieve a safe haven.

Roaming sleepers:

It is a good concept i have always approved of but only if they attack your POS, even if it meant they would only stop by to RF a module or two on an online POS and stay to destroy an offline POS.


Wh Generators.

No, like really does that even need an explanation? Everyone has a static and you chose your home based on that unless you are a simple kid and you should learn to roll it or move to the WH with the static you want.

mh...all those ideas. Why must it always be something new?

I'd just remove the ramdomness of the spawning mechanic in a certain way. Just let an active rolling group connect to a wormhole with active pilots in it and all is solved.
But don't add even more mechanics to open more and more connections ... u mad?

I don't like your ideas. Not a single one.

1. WH Destabilizer
Would it not be easier if CCP just removed these silly frig WHs? I don't see any content coming from this other than obvious baiting... and no one would use them for anything else than this.


2. Roaming Sleepers
If they are not merely cosmetic they can potentially hurt small sized corporations and out of TZ bigger groups too very badly. Scrambling, neuting and webbing sleepers on WHs in combination with recent changes to spawning distance is overkill.

No, no, no.

3. WH-generator
We do not need additional connections added via the proposed additional static generator. And what would be the purpose of that WH generator if not bringing people together that are active?

Any sort of WH generator should be a of K162 attractor.

I've always thought stealing a bit of the incursion systems for this would be cool. If you leave sleeper sites alive for too long then it feeds into the incursion bar. After it hits a point, the crazy no loot slepers start spawning everywhere and start to shoot down anything and everything, POS's, Poco's, randoms just chillin. Once the system is clear of anchored stuff, all the sites despawn and the bar drops back down to zero.

I like a good troll once in a while.

I like the idea of sleeper incursions... It would be cool if there was a new "sleeper infested wormhole" that creates the incursion if it connects to a system.

To the haters, i could propose ideas that solve all the issues you raise but i can't be bothered doing your thinking for you if you're going to be so quick to make wrong assumptions

I like the roaming sleepers.
I think they SHOULD carry loot. And be harder nps's the high class your go, and loot according to that. These are the hardest rats in eve and they should grant you the greatest reward for killing them.

I have always been a firm believer that the harder it is to live in wh space the greater the reward should be.

My first concern is the amount (or lack of) isk generated in low class wh's. C1-C4 do not generate the funding required to fuel pos's and fund pew pew ships.

The new changes to wh space brought on by the Hyperion expansion (These expansions do not deserve the name of expansion but w/e) has largely tipped the scales in terms of risk and reward. Wh space became much more dangerous with no gained reward, thus driving ppl away for wh space.

EXTREMELY unrefined idea:

The Sleepers are intelligent, automated drones, with some relation to rogue drones in K-space (don't remember the relation, but whatever). They constantly respawn. Is it too much to expect that there is a location where they are being manufactured for continual system defenses?

Sleeper production systems. Very very rare chance that a static will open up into one of these. Sleepers actively defend, send scout forces and assault squads to the hole and through the hole. They have destabilizing ships which apply mass to the hole through some targeted beam-like device unless uncloaked hostiles are active in the system.

Here you will see Sleeper battle platforms, with high amounts of blue loot and scrap, but which give a full escalation fleet a challenge. To get to them, you fight your way into the system, fight your way off the hole, and then warp to the anomaly.

For the duration of the operation, the connecting wormhole mass and time remain stable; maximum mass is even increased to allow capital ships to travel in and out freely, even from low-class systems. Polarization is still in effect.

If you are victorious, and clear the system of Sleepers, you "win" the ability to use a salvaged wormhole spawner: a device that generates a wormhole to any wormhole system of your choosing and allows a single ship to jump in before it collapses. It is a deployable device that may be deployed only in W-space, and only in deep space (ie: no structure or other cosmic anomaly or signature or rock or whatever present). Once configured for the target system and deployed, the wormhole is generated. When the ship jumps, the wormhole is collapsed, and the device explodes inflicting great damage to any other ship on-grid.

(Use a hauler to configure and anchor, and then get the hauler out of there leaving the lone ship that is to use it)

The strategic importance should be obvious.


Completely clearing the system of Sleeper anomalies, all related to manufacture and production, all significantly more dangerous than anything else (no escalations necessary), a self destruction timer begins. At the end of that timer, to protect the equipment in the facility, the sun will go supernova and destroy everything in the system, and collapse the connecting hole. Get what you can, and get out.

Thanks for your comments but you are also making too many assumptions about these theoretical feature. Of course it wouldn't be a good idea to have 250 wormhole generators in a system. I envision it being similar to the way a POCO works but anchored at the sun so that you could only have one per system.

With regards to the WH destabilizer, yes is could be done using a deployable but it thought the risk vs. reward balance would be better if it was a ship based module. This way the player would have to risk their ship and pod. Additional, the risk could be set by restricting the the module to specific ships (e.g. T3's).

Part of the idea behind both of these mechanics is to make it viable for small groups to operate on the small level as large groups in high class wormholes.



QFT!

Good counter-point Rek. Again I'm personally hesitant to tinker with the way wormholes spawn. It's my opinion that giving active control, even in a limited capacity, teeters right on that razors edge of "How much control is too much control?". Could it work? Anything can work given enough time and attention on behalf of CCP.

Don't get me wrong. They are good ideas. Implimentation of them would need to be done very carefully.

WH space is the riskiest space to live in and thereby should also have the absolute BEST personal income available, from the solo C1 dweller to the blobbiest C6 mega-alliance. If you are putting as much as we put on the line every day out here the payout should be leaps and bounds above anything that can be generated with next to no risk in Hisec.

I would prefer the indifferent lack of attention from CCP than the active tinkering with how we live that simply makes things harder for no reason and undermines the major reasons to come out here and put up with the day to day risks, aggravations, and challenges.