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(gank problems) at least give miner a chance ?

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Nevase Prometeus
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-09-03 16:12:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Nevase Prometeus
Due to Ganking problems if CCP hold on (sand box game style) like RL. that is no 100% safe on earth.

So at least give miner something like 911 call when had been gank and Concord would come faster.

Ganker is like robber with weapon that try to kill&steal what is not their property.

Miner is like a normal people without weapon.What should miner could do against gank.....nothing ...CCP at least please give miner a rights to scream to ask for help like reallife.

And penalty for gank should adjust as real life too. no fix penalty please . when you blowup someone ship concord destroy your ship too. But when you kill someone in pods concords should kill ganker's pod too. As a law in real life an eye for an eye.

thanks for reading. sorry for my poor engligh language.

thanks for all comments

Now I'm really worry about what world are we living. If you go outside your home and some robbers shoot you die and take all your wallets & everthing . It is your fault that you not arms yourself ?

Are we gonna teach our children. look out son find someone weaker than you and bullied him take his money if you want it is his fault for his weakness not your fault. You making a good thing .

EVE had show standard of moral and commonsense that hidden inside of people who playing .
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-09-03 16:14:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE MINERS!?! Roll

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#3 - 2014-09-03 16:16:47 UTC
Nevase Prometeus wrote:
Due to Ganking problems if CCP hold on (sand box game style) like RL. that is no 100% safe on earth.

So at least give miner something like 911 call when had been gank and Concord would come faster.

Ganker is like robber with weapon that try to kill&steal what is not their property.

Miner is like a normal people without weapon.What should miner could do against gank.....nothing ...CCP at least please give miner a rights to scream to ask for help like reallife.

And penalty for gank should adjust as real life too. no fix penalty please . when you blowup someone ship concord destroy your ship too. But when you kill someone in pods concords should kill ganker's pod too. As a law in real life an eye for an eye.

thanks for reading. sorry for my poor engligh language.



Or maybe you join a corp and see if they have people that will protect you as you mine... or hire some mercs to war dec code and watch for targets as you mine, or hire mercs to guard you in low sec. Or go find a quite wormhole and mine, or join a 0.0 alliance and go mine, or put more defenses on your miner at the risk of getting less ore. or don't mine in a system with a lot of code, there are 7k systems you can easily find a quite out the way system to mine. Or change ships to one that has better defenses at the expense of less ore..

Do I honestly need to go on? 10.5 years as a miner, its not the bloody hard to tell code to suck it and keep mining.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Torneach Structor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-09-03 16:17:45 UTC
You already get a free system-wide scream when the attack starts.

Just make sure to have a good enough tank to endure the assault until CONCORD comes along.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2014-09-03 16:18:42 UTC
Either post in one of the many threadnaughts that exist to address this very issue, or biomass and contract your stuff to me.
K thanks, bye.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#6 - 2014-09-03 16:18:42 UTC
You don't need ccp to give you a way to scream for help, its simple, join a corp, make friends, and have them help defend you. Or hire someone to do it. I just sovled your issue in 3 seconds with CCP not having to change a thing. You are welcome

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Trixie Lawless
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-09-03 16:20:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Trixie Lawless
Nevase Prometeus wrote:
Due to Ganking problems if CCP hold on (sand box game style) like RL. that is no 100% safe on earth.

So at least give miner something like 911 call when had been gank and Concord would come faster.

Ganker is like robber with weapon that try to kill&steal what is not their property.

Miner is like a normal people without weapon.What should miner could do against gank.....nothing ...CCP at least please give miner a rights to scream to ask for help like reallife.

And penalty for gank should adjust as real life too. no fix penalty please . when you blowup someone ship concord destroy your ship too. But when you kill someone in pods concords should kill ganker's pod too. As a law in real life an eye for an eye.

thanks for reading. sorry for my poor engligh language.


When I first started this game I was completely against ganking (and I'm still not fond of ganking lowbie toons in ventures) but after this weekend, meh. Too many dingalings floating around in space while they are afk doing whatever else. Gank away and I'll have some fun whoring bounties from Concord kills (I made easy isk this weekend).

And I don't know where you are from, but where I live us "normal folk" are usually armed. :)

Tank your ship and follow safe mining practices.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#8 - 2014-09-03 16:20:32 UTC
Torneach Structor wrote:
You already get a free system-wide scream when the attack starts.

Just make sure to have a good enough tank to endure the assault until CONCORD comes along.

this and HTFU
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#9 - 2014-09-03 16:21:42 UTC
Nevase Prometeus wrote:
So at least give miner something like 911 call when had been gank and Concord would come faster.
This already exists.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#10 - 2014-09-03 16:25:51 UTC
Don't be the lowest hanging fruit. Fit right. Fleet up with other miners, even if you're just planning on solo mining. Fleet boosts, even without a (off-grid) booster will throw the calculations of gankers what they may need to gank you off enough that the gank fails. Also, shut up in local when you got ganked. Your tears feed them.

In summary: Increase their risk, reduce their reward.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-09-03 16:34:47 UTC


Getting ganked?!?

Ain't nobody got time for THAT Shocked

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2014-09-03 16:59:03 UTC
step 1 - roll a junk alt on a spare slot.
step 2 - have him shoot at someone to get GCC/crim in the belt you are mining in
step 3 - concord will spawn in the belt and kill him
step 4 - now concord is in the belt, if someone comes to gank you they should spawn a little bit faster.
step 5 - profit

not tested, don't know if it works but probably worth a try. gankers tend to avoid belts where concord is already spawned.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#13 - 2014-09-03 16:59:45 UTC
Obligatory..





Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#14 - 2014-09-03 17:05:28 UTC
It's a lousy 10M isk to avoid all the headache. I dont understand why some people would rather lose ship after ship or be forced to sit in station when the gankers arrive because they "object in principle" to the whole thing. We have a "daughter corp" that mines for us, and we make sure all of our miner's follow The Code of New Halaima.

A lousy 10M isk. Geez.

\m/ O.o \m/

"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project

Hiply Rustic
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-09-03 17:32:17 UTC
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
It's a lousy 10M isk to avoid all the headache. I dont understand why some people would rather lose ship after ship or be forced to sit in station when the gankers arrive because they "object in principle" to the whole thing. We have a "daughter corp" that mines for us, and we make sure all of our miner's follow The Code of New Halaima.

A lousy 10M isk. Geez.




Alternately, you can just stay at the damn keyboard, keep local open with CODE and whoever needs to be set to 'terrible' and on your watch list, and...I know "butHiplyit'shaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrdddd!"...periodically use dscan, stay semi-aligned and crawling along at 4-5 m/s, and avoid being ludicrously easy prey to begin with. Oh, and yes, get some fĂșcking tank.

Ralph King-Griffin wrote: "Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied." EvE: Only the strong-willied need apply.

Americium Cobalt
Cobalt-60 Nuclear Fusion Industries
#16 - 2014-09-03 17:33:20 UTC
Was Ganked on my first day as a rookie, it was exciting, since then i learned how to shield and armor tank my mining ships.
There is a balance of Greed vs Fit that most miners still do not get.
I have survived many ganking attempts. Because i am not greedy.
Ganking makes the game exciting.
Also makes the game profitable when you manufacture all the ganking accessories.
I also buy up all their stuff locally and raise the prices.
So play on!!!
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#17 - 2014-09-03 17:35:37 UTC
Fly a proc.

The Drake is a Lie

Paranoid Loyd
#18 - 2014-09-03 17:36:04 UTC
Chandaris wrote:
step 1 - roll a junk alt on a spare slot.
step 2 - have him shoot at someone to get GCC/crim in the belt you are mining in
step 3 - concord will spawn in the belt and kill him
step 4 - now concord is in the belt, if someone comes to gank you they should spawn a little bit faster.
step 5 - profit

not tested, don't know if it works but probably worth a try. gankers tend to avoid belts where concord is already spawned.


Or they just do the same thing and pull them back out of the belt.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#19 - 2014-09-03 17:40:19 UTC
I will never understand the need to spend 30 seconds asking CCP to do something that you can already do for yourself in game with 5 seconds of thinking. Seems wasteful to me.
Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
#20 - 2014-09-03 17:40:39 UTC
Nevase, I believe there was a referendum to increase our space taxes in order to fund more CONCORD security to our peace-loving pilots that are doing their part to stimulate our economy. Unfortunately, this was voted down.

Perhaps one day, a just government that is hard on crime and represents the people will come into power. In the interim, we will just have to endure the shameful criminal rights superceding the rights of blue collar workers.

Thank you for your comments, space citizen.
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