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current character bazaar prices

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Anal Canal
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#21 - 2014-09-03 09:00:01 UTC
Shoot... I'll throw in the towel...


WTS Oh like lets say between 1M & 100M SP toon, pristine reputation. Community awareness. Active in player made content....

for... oh...ummm....

SIXTY BILLION DOUBLE DOLLARS! (Or a kidney, blood type AB- assuming that organ trading is kosher with CCP on forums, please I need this kidney.)

The Artist Formerly Known As AC. 

The terminal end of the digestive system. 

The Best CSM Candidate

Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#22 - 2014-09-03 09:01:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Azami Nevinyrall
Divide maximum SP/hour by total SP. You'll know the actual time spent on training.
With that number figure out how long the character has been training for.
Divide by 30 for how many months the character has been training. Multiply by cost of PLEX.
Add cost of books.

That is what the character is REALLY worth.

Example:

This character has ~give or take~ 99,000,000 SP.

Max SP/hour is 2700

99,000,000/2700 = 36666.7 hours trained. Or, 1527 days.

1527.8/30 = 50.9 months.

Cost of PLEX = 775,000,000.00 (Jita price)

50.9 x 775,000,000 = 39,447,500,000 ISK

Then add skills...

...

Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#23 - 2014-09-03 09:13:11 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:

That is what the character is REALLY worth.

In principle yes, but other factors also apply. Like how focused the character is skilled. If you want to sell it as a production char for example, combat skills usually don't add much to its worth and of course the usual supply and demand rules apply too.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#24 - 2014-09-03 09:16:33 UTC
Who honestly cares? Let them waste their time on overinflated prices. This is what happens when you have an open market full of cretins.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)

malcovas Henderson
THoF
#25 - 2014-09-03 09:18:16 UTC
Who are you to dictate what others should think on how much their toon is worth. There is a consensus on prices, but that does not mean all have to follow it.

If that Char does not sell, that's their problem.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#26 - 2014-09-03 09:35:49 UTC
Ka'Narlist wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:

That is what the character is REALLY worth.

In principle yes, but other factors also apply. Like how focused the character is skilled. If you want to sell it as a production char for example, combat skills usually don't add much to its worth and of course the usual supply and demand rules apply too.

Oh I agree!

Characters reputation, "trophy" killmails, space barbie apparel, etc etc...

The math just shows its actual worth with game time put in.

Once seen the first character (character was created just after last wipe of Beta testing.) With no skills trained for a few billion...

...

Victor Andall
#27 - 2014-09-03 10:19:14 UTC
That site estimated my character with perfect trading and perfect PI skills AND some Hauling and support skills at 2 billion.

Sold it for 6.

I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?

19.08.2014 - Dinsdale gets slammed by CCP Falcon. Never forget.

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2014-09-03 10:34:33 UTC
Anal Canal wrote:
Shoot... I'll throw in the towel...


WTS Oh like lets say between 1M & 100M SP toon, pristine reputation. Community awareness. Active in player made content....

for... oh...ummm....

SIXTY BILLION DOUBLE DOLLARS! (Or a kidney, blood type AB- assuming that organ trading is kosher with CCP on forums, please I need this kidney.)

**** i keep forgetting to clarify i'm selling in double dollars

just playing. i've bought characters but haven't sold ****.

never play with your own product (and definitely don't start giving them fancy clothes)
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-09-03 10:53:40 UTC
And of course, the person asking wayyyyy too much always parrots the same stupid line "No wasted skills"...

Then you look and see many wasted skills...
Velicitia
XS Tech
#30 - 2014-09-03 11:08:40 UTC
Anal Canal wrote:

SIXTY BILLION DOUBLE DOLLARS! (Or a kidney, blood type AB- assuming that organ trading is kosher with CCP on forums, please I need this kidney.)


will pay if and only if they're wanted for the destruction of the city of July, and carry the nickname "The Humanoid Typhoon".


anything else, and no sale.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#31 - 2014-09-03 11:19:05 UTC
WTB T2 siege and triage archon and thanatos pilot, perfect supports, no wasted SP budget 10-12 B don't post if over this budget thanks
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#32 - 2014-09-03 11:52:58 UTC
Amarr Citizen 1312151005 wrote:
So many uninformed people trying to sell characters.
http://gemblog.nl/skill/ is pretty close give or take 15% or so.
Seeing >20M sp toons on there so 15+B and no offers.
Well the reason why is you think you are selling a character made of gold.

I am not sure if it's a few people trying to manipulate character prices or just people are dumb.
Either way some of those characters will never sell for what they are asking.

That website is a joke and the reason most people use a simple password on their eveboard links to stop it from working. I'm valued at 55B according to it, however I have had three people offer me 100B.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2014-09-03 12:06:21 UTC
dude, mashie... 100B is still just... no

200, just because that figure is one you can't refuse. anything less is...
Absolutely Not Analt
Carebears on Fire
#34 - 2014-09-03 12:29:40 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
gemblog is a **** character valuation.


Unfortunately I have to agree with this. When I recently sold my main, I got roughly 33% more than Gemblog said she was worth.

All of that aside, there's nothing anyone can do about it. If the characters are overpriced, they won't sell - it's as simple as that. I'm not sure what the outrage of the OP is all about.

Eve is a multi player game. And you are the content. - Ralph King-Griffin Being meh at two things is not better than being great at one. - Lugh Crow-Slave

Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#35 - 2014-09-03 13:04:06 UTC
Gemblog hasn't been updated in years.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Othran
Route One
#36 - 2014-09-03 13:19:56 UTC
Gemblog was way off the mark 3 years ago (20% under selling price on average) so why people refer to it now is beyond me.
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#37 - 2014-09-03 13:38:12 UTC
Lets just get to real reason why you are posting this... your character trading business is going slow lately and you seeing all those chars you can't resell for profit makes you sad.
Big Lynx
#38 - 2014-09-03 13:57:04 UTC
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
Damn near everyone in this thread is just trolling the OP for trolling's sake, I suppose.



What do you expect? That's general discussion forum
Marsha Mallow
#39 - 2014-09-03 14:05:27 UTC
Amarr Citizen 1312151005 wrote:
So many uninformed people trying to sell characters.
http://gemblog.nl/skill/ is pretty close give or take 15% or so.
Seeing >20M sp toons on there so 15+B and no offers.
Well the reason why is you think you are selling a character made of gold.

I am not sure if it's a few people trying to manipulate character prices or just people are dumb.
Either way some of those characters will never sell for what they are asking.

Don't try to lecture character traders about pricing using that pile of poop website. Most of the time it just amuses us. We can price characters at whatever we want given that we set the prices. Trust me, they will sell - sometimes at a bil per SP if they are focused enough. If people are wealthy enough to buy alts to stick into supers or for specific jobs, they expect a focused skillsheet without tons of waste even if it means paying a premium. Demand is set by the buyers, not the sellers, and it's wealthy buyers pricing scrub lowballers out of the market.

There is indeed a 'conspiracy' to raise prices - pretty much everyone with a brain has increased their focused alt prices by 20-30% in the last few months to mirror plex increases. The horreur. It is always a push to force through a new price ceiling because character values lag behind plex prices, but fortunately dedicated traders are patient and wealthy enough to slowsell whilst prices shift.

The 30-90m sp firesale range is normally where the best deals appear, but there buyers are competing with resellers who know at a glance what characters are worth and ninja the underpriced alts almost as soon as they are listed. As Epeen remarked though, there are quite a lot of those types available at the moment, but to get one you're going to need to put in a few days scouring the forums and be quick off the mark. Guess what - it's a market - some people are better at it than others. If you don't like it, don't play in it.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day

NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#40 - 2014-09-03 14:46:24 UTC
Anal Canal wrote:
Shoot... I'll throw in the towel...


WTS Oh like lets say between 1M & 100M SP toon, pristine reputation. Community awareness. Active in player made content....

for... oh...ummm....

SIXTY BILLION DOUBLE DOLLARS! (Or a kidney, blood type AB- assuming that organ trading is kosher with CCP on forums, please I need this kidney.)

what happened to your kidney?

Also
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/researchers-grow-human-kidney-using-stem-cells
Its 4 years past 2010, the future is here, start acting like it.
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