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Give bomber pilots some reason to choose the Nemesis?
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#21 - 2014-09-02 17:45:30 UTC
Never not fit MWDs on any ship unless you are trying to do something specific. I have always found AB Stealth Bombers to die miserably since they cannot even nominally dictate range.

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#22 - 2014-09-02 18:16:05 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Never not fit MWDs on any ship unless you are trying to do something specific. I have always found AB Stealth Bombers to die miserably since they cannot even nominally dictate range.

Although this definitely qualifies as something specific, AB bombers hugging a small POS shield do a fantastic job out-tracking non-faction POS guns. Just make sure there's no web batteries....

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Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#23 - 2014-09-02 18:30:50 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Never not fit MWDs on any ship unless you are trying to do something specific. I have always found AB Stealth Bombers to die miserably since they cannot even nominally dictate range.



Ideally though you want to fly bomber gangs with recon support. That means the target should be dual webbed by at least one rapier 30-40 KM +, should be pointed by an Arazu from 50+ as well as damped and TPed and what not from about the same range by the bombers.

AB fits will allow you to fit a harder hitting ship with more ewar capability with better traversal speed.


However in SOME instances, MWD can be more helpful. Just ideally the scenario will be as detailed above and not a requirement.
Fenris Orion
Strata Victoria
Of Essence
#24 - 2014-09-02 20:53:12 UTC
I'd like to see the Nemesis drop a mid slot for a third low slot like the Purifier. More torpedo dps with a third BCS, or the ability to fit a MAPC+MSE, or a DC, without gimping said dps would make the Nemesis much more useful. If you're using it expressly to drop bombs in 0.0/WH space, I don't see the point in fitting anything other than the cloak and launcher.
Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#25 - 2014-09-03 03:21:02 UTC
Maybe a little bit more CPU and mobility. Giving it the slot lay out of 2 other bombers just isn't realistic.
Spugg Galdon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-09-03 06:26:18 UTC
Chance Ravinne wrote:
I am by no means a bomber expert, but the consensus among more educated stealth pilots seems to be that the Nemesis is easily the worst stealth bomber.

Looking over the stats, it's easy to see why. The Nemesis just isn't the best at anything. The Manticore is easier to fit. The Hound is faster. The Purifier holds more bombs. Pretty much the only thing the Nemesis has going for it is its aesthetics.

Is there any change that could be made just to make the Nemesis strong in one area? Maybe make it significantly tankier than other bombers, or way more agile? Give it a bump in power grid so it can fit shield mods more easily? Bump its warp speed up a hair?

Nothing crazy, just a reason to use it other than LOL TRAINED GALLENTE FRIGS V ALREADY.



Chance, I love your videos and you're an inspiration to all the noobs out there who think that they can't do anything in game until they've trained their toon for 3 years.

On the topic of bombers I find that they're all very similar. The only real difference is damage type and speed. I'm going to EvE Mail you some fits that I think you will find useful for your playstyle.

Keep it up.... I want to see more torpedo deliveries. Even if it's to my cockpit.
Elliot Vodka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-09-03 11:49:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Elliot Vodka
The stealth bombers have not been revamped like most other ships so far, but its on there agenda. Stay patient, and im sure you'll end up getting a change that's more than enough to satisfy you.

;)

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