Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What's wrong with sorting by sig if it was available? Chance are the majority of a fleet would be the exact same size if they have a doctrine fit since there isn't a bajillion skill level difference where you can end up with a different final sig size...

sig radius also affects tracking, missile damage, lock time, etc. Gonna need to expand why you -1 the idea beyond a single (relatively niche) use of the stat we would like visible if you want to effectively contribute to the discussion.

So, because we want a statistic which makes huge differences in how several things perform to have an option to make visible, we're lazy and stupid and cowards? How *nice* of you to say that.
As for strategy, this isn't a huge change, other than being able to see who has how much sig-bloat and/or halos.

Let me see.... Velocity affects tracking & missile damage, we can see that in the overview.....
In fact we can see angular velocity which is directly the tracking stat.....
So.... we already have other stats that also similarly affect damage that are shown in the overview, there is no reason for sig radius to be the sacred cow.....

Unless of course you are a 'solo' PvPer scared that this will show up your OGB before someone engages, since that's the main intel it will give away.

Is it a significant change, totally. But it's not a sacred cow.

Why?

All the information you need is already displayed in the center of the screen in blue letters, telling you how much damage you do or not.
Instead of looking at the angular velocity, look at transversal and apply high=bad, low=good.

The target speed tells you already if some boat is linked or not. If a boat goes as fast as it should, no links and if yes links are in play.

For missiles the volley damage displayed on the top center screen position tells you how much % of the volley damage is applied.
It goes from 0% - 1% of the volley damage - unfortunately not higher than that.

0-0.1% means bad, 0.2-1% means heavy missiles good, mmkay?

So, are trying to say that you are going to create an excel spreadsheet that has every ship in the game in it and you can plug in the sig radius of a ship that you see in the game to see what their fit could be? Keep in mind that once this goes on the overview, people can start throwing off the intel by fitting one shield extender or a rig on to hide they have those halos in when they are just travelling around. They can also just keep the link that reduces sig radius off until the fight actually starts in which they can turn that last link back on.

Even if someone was shield tanked and they had links, do they have all perfect level 5 skills on both the booster and the character they are playing (Including rig skills) along with the proper boosting ship and implant? Or are they simply flying as armor?

If you read my OP you can see why I would like to see this introduced in the game. It is not "too good" to be introduced. People are just afraid that this will be a game breaking thing to add to the game but just like velocity only lets you estimate fits, so will sig radius. There are counters to the intel of the velocity column by either not moving or moving at a slower speed, but there are also tricks you can do with your sig radius as well.

Except that sig radius is exactly about how big you "see" the thing on grid. It's something that is really, really obvious if you are willing to make an IRL comparison, with radar cross section being almost instantly available on anything like a modern combat sensor array.

Adding sig to the overview gives away to much information into being able to prioritize targets in fleets. Examples being TPed targets and people with Inty 4 dying a lot quicker.

I thought of a compromise with showing sig next the locked target would be a better option, but decided against it again as I wouldn't be able to trick opponents into thinking am AB only fit anymore. However skirmish linked targets would be a lot easier to avoid in cases were they improperly time activation in order to wreck you.

Coming from an Incursion point of view, and fleet mechanics, instead of having sig rad as an overview option, why couldn't the fleet we're all in see our e-war icons..i.e. webs and target painters show up on the targets we (the fleet) have locked? This way the blasters dudes can see what the painters are shooting at, since it is common that the painters are on different ships.

I'd rather see pics/icons like we have above our huds on the targets locked than another column of numbers. +1 anyway for the idea.