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[CSM] December Summit - Little things - FW, Wormholes

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Malkev
Tribal Liberation Force
#81 - 2011-12-01 01:13:46 UTC
Somewhat WH related:

Recalibrate d-scan permanently so that it no longer needs to recalibrate while I'm looking for targets.
Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2011-12-01 22:55:58 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Please discuss issues related to this session in this thread. We look forward to your comments and suggestions.


I was curious about this process and have a few questions if you don’t mind.

There are a lot of good discussions surrounding both topics within this thread and others, do you read and take note of other thread content?

I understand a lot of what you may champion on our behalf will be down to your own logic and preferences but will you highlight the “little things” that the CSM will be taking to CCP? Or Is CCP expected to monitor this thread and prepare to discuss relevant points?

Do you all have personal lists or is there a more generic agenda of items worked out for the CSM as a whole?

I ask these questions only in the hope of understanding how best to develop and present ideas that may gain the support of the CSM.

Thank you for your time in managing this process.
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#83 - 2011-12-02 00:38:58 UTC
Miniers involvement in FW
The faction warfare missions when I played were quick and fast played one person in a speed tanker and the other in a dps ships like a Stealth bomber with a Targeting laser.

Could there be a mission or even strong hold that would only let a Procure through fit and fit an Ice harvester on to grab NPC ice to be completed for mission.
The value of the mission would be higher than most as it required an escort of a non cloak-able ship(it only has 1 High fitted with an Ice Harvester) A set amount of time has to be sent Ice mining - maybe 2 blocks -
The ship won't have much of a tank on it so the Rate guarding the belt may be a problem.

It make the mission of escort the diplomat (the Procurer) and his papers (NPC ice) a style of mission not seen in FW

grant you there are short cuts like take Powler to local station, fit ship, do mission return to Station with ice, package ship and return home. with ore in powler. but at the belt the guarding of the Procurer would be interesting)

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NPCS effected by FW (Immersion)
Would be interesting for stations in FW space to close their doors to the opposing faction players: There would be some Stations in the opposing space as they were loyal to the Race they belong to. (Ie Quafe belongs to Gellentie) On those station the Faction NPC would park out there to "Blockade" these station.

New missions would go up for faction capsuliers to ferry goods to these station other wise docking fees or some negative effects happen to these station happen as they begin to starve.
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UI instruction -Whats This Button
Can we put a “whats This” or putting a question mark next to the “pin this window” button on the top right corner of the different UI windows. Pressing it would load the in game browser to a eve wiki page describing user interface's purpose, features and instruction. Possibly pointing to a You Tube Video tutorial to be used in a regular browser, Some windows would be good to start would be:
-the new personal assets window with its new increase functionality.
-overview window.
-start map.
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Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships

Jax Slizard
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#84 - 2011-12-02 02:22:49 UTC
Some kind of rebalancing has to happen between sleeper salvage drops and T3 building.

The fact is, nanoribbons are the only valuable salvage b/c of various bottlenecks to the point that all other salvage is often not even worth carrying around because there is so much of it on the market comparatively.

A while ago (on the old forums) there was a long discussion in either markets or sci/ind about exactly why this is true and why it is as bad as it is, but it would be nice if salvage was more balanced. (Also, it would lower the cost of T3s, so more people can have fun with them.)
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2011-12-02 10:00:51 UTC
I would like to see a Hide and seek level in low sec so I can spend time to hide from the casually roamer but makes me vulnerable to the Pirate that hides in a system I set up in...
I would get a like to the Features and idea area but the forums not allowing it

"Allowing people to Hide from Local by Detection inhibiting the Local Communication Pylons "

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships

Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2011-12-02 10:21:33 UTC
There was a concern about hot drops and a proposal for whined up cyno effects.
how about instead a a mass limit per second can be pushed though the Bridge or cyno beacon and this limit lessens the longer the cyno is on.
This would allow a wave of frigates though first to tackle, Cruisers to Lock down, Battle Ships to start the BS followed by the capitals.

Would push the need for frigs and the opportunity to reship when the carriers arrive.

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships

Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2011-12-02 10:29:54 UTC
Alticus C Bear wrote:
There are a lot of good discussions surrounding both topics within this thread and others, do you read and take note of other thread content?


One of the things I'll do this weekend is write up notes about the threads.

Alticus C Bear wrote:
I understand a lot of what you may champion on our behalf will be down to your own logic and preferences but will you highlight the “little things” that the CSM will be taking to CCP? Or Is CCP expected to monitor this thread and prepare to discuss relevant points?


I don't expect them to do it formally, but some devs may do it informally. CSM meetings tend to be more high-level than particular feature discussions, but the lists are still helpful, especially if a CSM doesn't have direct experience with a particular aspect of the game. And we can point the devs to the thread.

Alticus C Bear wrote:
Do you all have personal lists or is there a more generic agenda of items worked out for the CSM as a whole?


We usually write up a shared document (in etherpad, for example) to keep notes.

I try not to let my personal preferences influence me too much. That's one reason I did the crowdsourcing.

Private Citizen • CSM in recovery

ApexJB
Purdue Engineering and Technology
#88 - 2011-12-02 14:28:20 UTC
Two step wrote:
Remember, this is *little* things. I am still working on my personal list, here is what is on it so far:


7) Don't change sig ids after DT - Edit: This was done with crucible!

Can anyone confirm this? My first test of this was negative.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#89 - 2011-12-02 14:50:15 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Alticus C Bear wrote:
There are a lot of good discussions surrounding both topics within this thread and others, do you read and take note of other thread content?


One of the things I'll do this weekend is write up notes about the threads.



Thank you to you and any other csm members who are willing to learn about this part of the game in order to try to talk with ccp about it.


There have been so many threads over the years and often ideas are rejected but the thread is lost so the idea comes back again. I made a post where I try to list several of the ideas that have been proposed and just give a brief explanation of the pro and con that people made for the idea. For what its worth here is that post:

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1564233&page=1#1



Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2011-12-02 21:50:59 UTC
Thank you for your response

Here is another little thing that annoyed me last night. I am a much more casual player than I used to be and although I have good standings with a lot of corps my standings with the militia are not quite as good, even given how fruitful FW missions can be I do not real have the time to gain standings like I used to and gaining a tiny amount a couple of times a week is really not getting me very far.

To the point anyway apparently my own militia don’t like me enough to install a Jump Clone, I would propose lower standings requirement for militia members to install jump clones in their own militia corp stations perhaps 3.0/4.0 or something similar.

I figure this would be a nice little benefit for those newer pilots to the militia and may make losec more accessible for newer pilots through the militia.
Stralow
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#91 - 2011-12-03 11:09:56 UTC
ApexJB wrote:
Two step wrote:
Remember, this is *little* things. I am still working on my personal list, here is what is on it so far:


7) Don't change sig ids after DT - Edit: This was done with crucible!

Can anyone confirm this? My first test of this was negative.



No, they still change. They all now have a similiar ID in the same system most of the time. After DT they are for example:
ASD-441, BSD-441, CSD-441 and so on. A new ID that spawn, like a K162 get an ID, that doesn't match that pattern.

But they all get other IDs after Downtime.

i say we take off and nuke the whole site from orbit. it's the only way to be sure

Mister Swift
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#92 - 2011-12-03 16:34:24 UTC
Keyboard shortcut for the Analyse button in the Scanner window.
Keyboard shortcuts for increase/decreasing the range of selected probes.

Also, confirming that signature IDs still change after DT.
Saul Dhampir
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#93 - 2011-12-04 23:36:58 UTC
Change out of range objects on the scanner to be 'longest' range.

Thus if you sort your scan by range, shortest to longest you get just that, with objects over 14AU at the bottom, not before items 1km away.
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#94 - 2011-12-05 00:59:02 UTC
Saul Dhampir wrote:
Change out of range objects on the scanner to be 'longest' range.

Thus if you sort your scan by range, shortest to longest you get just that, with objects over 14AU at the bottom, not before items 1km away.


Are you suggesting that the D-scan be able to detect ALL ships at ALL ranges, and just tell you that they're too far away to get an exact distance? I don't follow you here...

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary

Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#95 - 2011-12-05 15:18:40 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Saul Dhampir wrote:
Change out of range objects on the scanner to be 'longest' range.

Thus if you sort your scan by range, shortest to longest you get just that, with objects over 14AU at the bottom, not before items 1km away.


Are you suggesting that the D-scan be able to detect ALL ships at ALL ranges, and just tell you that they're too far away to get an exact distance? I don't follow you here...

No, he's suggesting that off-grid items get sorted below on-grid ones when you sort your d-scan by range descending.
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#96 - 2011-12-05 15:18:49 UTC
Malkev wrote:
Somewhat WH related:

Recalibrate d-scan permanently so that it no longer needs to recalibrate while I'm looking for targets.

Lay off the button. The "recalibrate" message is usually a sign you've gotten too paranoid about spamming d-scan.
Malkev
Tribal Liberation Force
#97 - 2011-12-07 22:11:13 UTC
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui wrote:
Lay off the button. The "recalibrate" message is usually a sign you've gotten too paranoid about spamming d-scan.

Can't help it, I need my fix!

1) Shields on ships out of a SMA/entering a Pulsar/joining a fleet
2) Better system than POS passwords for POS access (same UI as chat channels, would be awesome)
3) Capital SMAs allowed in w-space
4) Cans in corp hangers. Should be able to name them, open them, put stuff in them
5) Rename all POS structures
6) Randomness in sleeper spawns
7) Don't change sig IDs after DT
8) Capital ship SD timers
9) Reconfigure T3 subsystems @ SMA
10) Ability to repackage items in corp hangars
11) Remember ignored sigs after exiting a system
12) Make Gas Harvesters similar to Salvagers/Tractor Beams in the sense that they do not require a turret hardpoint

Does anyone know if polarization is still weird? I can't remember what patch changed it, but I thought it used to be:

Jump through WH A.
Jump back through WH A.
(Polarized)
Jump through WH B.
No longer polarized on WH A.

I could be crazy/wrong, but I swear that's how it used to be. Now the polarization remains after jumping through another WH.
Damassys Kadesh
Royal Khanid Hunting Society
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#98 - 2011-12-09 23:39:48 UTC
Just curious: what kind of notification/report of the results of the summit can us interested players expect?

Sourem Itharen > Congratulations Lady Kadesh, you have been selected by trial of fire and blood, under the watchful eyes of God, to represent Lord Khanid as his champion in the Imperial Succession trials -YC117

Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#99 - 2011-12-09 23:56:15 UTC
Damassys Kadesh wrote:
Just curious: what kind of notification/report of the results of the summit can us interested players expect?


The CSM posts minutes of the meetings at the summit. You can find examples of past minutes at [url]http://www.eveonline.com/council/voting/transcripts.asp[/url]

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Damassys Kadesh
Royal Khanid Hunting Society
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#100 - 2011-12-10 00:09:35 UTC
Two step wrote:
Damassys Kadesh wrote:
Just curious: what kind of notification/report of the results of the summit can us interested players expect?


The CSM posts minutes of the meetings at the summit. You can find examples of past minutes at [url]http://www.eveonline.com/council/voting/transcripts.asp[/url]


Ah yes, thanks. I await the FW details eagerly ;)

Sourem Itharen > Congratulations Lady Kadesh, you have been selected by trial of fire and blood, under the watchful eyes of God, to represent Lord Khanid as his champion in the Imperial Succession trials -YC117