Wormholes

The dachshund man hit it right on the nose here.


The bottom line. W-space probably has the greatest amount of risk/chance of being ganked running sites. It's populated by bloodthirsty maniacs who froth at the mouth at the site of sleeper wrecks. The average person day tripping or cluelessly living in a wormhole once found dies in short order. Which is why people go to null/hs incursions. For most people not only is the money better buts it's infinitely safer.


Nothing CCP ever does to ham-handedly tweak mechanics to force risk will ever equal the risk inherent in site running in a land filled with cloaky scouts providing warnings for the tank fleet. The amount of effort it takes to make ISK safely in w-space is much higher then null/incursions hence the commensurate emptiness of bobs land vs those places.

I posted this before but I'll sum it up here. Correct, there needs to be economic activity in wormhole space , but it cannot be moongoop. There are a bunch of sleeper loot that is essentially waste. Turn that into the creation of wormhole modules. Make the modules function of based on overheating (unheated, same stats as a t1 base module. Heated, a bit over a t2 module . Once best is off, begins to perform like a t1 module again).

Whole new modules, created from t1 blueprints and sleeper gear

Ishtar balance is a completely different issue mostly regarding its weapon system. Hopefully that'll be addressed.

Wormhole space never revolved around any sov mechanic. It is the Wild West, and its major pve activity involves activities that are done outside of a pos shield. Moongoop is inherently an industry mechanic based around cultivating moon stuff to make t2 equipment, which are all done inside pos shields. The difference between this and what I said is that the primary way to farm the materials is based on pve activity outside of a pos and risking ships, not in a unmanned small tower with a moon harvester in it. Who would bother attacking that...

Wormholes were never based around t2 equipment, but on the multi purpose t3. I wish CCP would consider equipment that can be based off of the main mechanic of t3 ships, heat dissipation. Balance for equipment like this exists already and the statistics for heated t2 to officer mods already exist. Pick a point between a heated t2 gun with ammo, and a deep space module, and there lies the potential for sleeper equipment. Pathetically supported when activated, but amazing while being overheated. You do it too much, you melt the stuff (as what currently happens). You gain a balance between t2 and sleeper modules based on its sustained longevity. The sleeper equipment will drop in potential once the module is not heated, but would have amazing initial burst and sustain. It is limited though and will underperform a t2 module under a longer sustained fight.

I can theorycraft but that is somewhat moot.

Basically, moongoop won't get you any more fights, just more pos shields up. It won't help industry in wormholes, it'll just get shipped and sold. Farmholes won't bother with sleepers, they'll just mine out goop. There is no pve or pvp advantage for adding moongoop to wormholes.

Except, if there were moon goop, then there would be an easy high-risk way for any blobbling entity to make supermegaspacebucks and deny fights to anyone. How I would do it:

Assuming you have 200+ members, which is relatively common, you take a C6>C6 WH, and start harvesting the goop from the moons. Then, with your new supermegaspacebucks you spread into any other unoccupied C6 systems that have good goop. You leave your harvesters running and all you need is a couple of scanning toons per system. If any system gets attacked, you have a response force in your home C6>C6 which will rage-roll to get the fleet in to defend the reinforcement timer.

There are a bit over 100 C6 systems, so your chance of rolling a hole of choice is fairly good. If you can keep your cycle time between holes below 10 minutes you can average about 20 hours of rolling per success. This means that between a 41 hour reinforcement timer you could theoretically bring 6 capitals to respond for the timer, plus subcaps. Plus whatever you pre-positioned in the systems.

That is, if you even both to defend them at all. See, since the towers are cheap and the rewards are high, you could just say f-it and not extend the effort. Plenty of people already seem to be doing that by just running sites and never going down the chain to PVP or anything. Who's to say that they wouldn't do that again in this case?


No, moon goo is not the answer that wormholes need. It would bring more towers and POS bashes into wormholes, but not necessarily any more PVP.

I suggest instead perhaps they should make some sort of belt-like site that would have a great deal of respawn and would be completed in a frigate? That would give an incentive for people to use the new frig-only holes, and if it despawned after the last wave and contained ores, would result in a mining zone that would require combat probes to find the miners.

Anyway, just a random thought.