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Luft Reich
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#21 - 2014-08-28 12:26:02 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:
When developers ask for feedback, they are not obliged to give you their feedback on your feedback... What?

No doubt when CCP finally get round to "fixing" local chat in K-space, there will be hundreds of complaints from all the nullsec ratters/miners. That doesn't mean it isn't a good change.

Ps. post with your main


I would expect somebody from probe patrol to have the brains to check somebodies corp history and see this is my main. Alas I don't have a corp right now because *RL*.

Also clearly the lot of you have no appreciation for what myself and other who like to post long emotional threads are trying to do, but that's ok, if you are satisfied with the status quo suit yourself.

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Luft Reich
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#22 - 2014-08-28 12:30:01 UTC
calaretu wrote:
Posting in a redundant emotional npc alt thread


Replying to a redundant, non-constructive reply. Going to assume you are 100% ok with the situation of wormhole space now, also this isn't an alt, just a main who had *rl*

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Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
#23 - 2014-08-28 13:20:47 UTC
Luft Reich wrote:
[...]I have a Doctorate in Social Psychology [...] worked very closely with my fellow businessmen to found what is now a Multi-Million dollar law firm.[...]


In which part of the world do you live? Where law firms are founded by social psychologists and businessmen who would unfortunately not be able to actually practice law. However, this fact does not prevent said law firms from growing into multi million dollar clients within a few years.

Stranger things have happened but I do doubt these credentials.
Alexander Eisenhower
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-08-28 13:24:19 UTC
Being a noob to the WH thing my main complaint is with the shear quantity in this patch. There are what 6 major points addressed? Does CCP actually expect us to believe they are capable of doing all this correctly in one huge patch? Im not sure yet how this new approach to WHs will affect my plans. Fortunately, its mostly plans for me, looking for my golden egg.

With CCP planning to have more frequent patches they had better dial back the scope of each one. Its just too much to process on the user end. We spend literally years learning all the ends and outs of this game and now they want to change it all?
Luft Reich
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#25 - 2014-08-28 13:35:41 UTC
Sequester Risalo wrote:
Luft Reich wrote:
[...]I have a Doctorate in Social Psychology [...] worked very closely with my fellow businessmen to found what is now a Multi-Million dollar law firm.[...]


In which part of the world do you live? Where law firms are founded by social psychologists and businessmen who would unfortunately not be able to actually practice law. However, this fact does not prevent said law firms from growing into multi million dollar clients within a few years.

Stranger things have happened but I do doubt these credentials.


Credentials sent over to you

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Meytal
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-08-28 14:30:02 UTC
Good post. A little more constructive than mine that was deleted, though just as heart-felt. I still expect about as much response to yours that I was expecting for mine though :)

Thing is, it's only a couple of days since the patch. Assuming most people in-game don't read patch notes, it'll take some time before everyone figures out the new mechanics. CCP could rightly point to :numbers: and say that everything has stayed the same, there is no problem, nothing to see here, move along. They could even point to :numbers: and say that kills are up, because of those same ill-informed players losing their ships trying to do the same thing they've always done, and start patting themselves on the back.

Revisit this in about two weeks or so. And then again in another month after that.
That should be a sufficient time for people to adapt and change or to move out.
criativa
Zugleich Techniken
#27 - 2014-08-28 14:33:15 UTC
I don't like discussions that starts with "I've a large experience in being a hotshot so I know what I'm talking about"... This proves nothing.

Anyway, I believe that pushing CCP to "prove" anything right now is useless. The kind of data you want takes weeks, months to be generated (considering that a proper statistical study will be implemented). One thing is complaining about the changes and how CCP is [improperly] reacting to feedback from the community, which is very reasonable, other is demanding things that can't be done, which you did (partially).

I do support your claim for a better feedback relationship between CCP and us (players), but I also believe we must be reasonable in what we ask.
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
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#28 - 2014-08-28 19:10:41 UTC
do ccp has any experience about wormholes?
do they actually lived in them?
no! they know them from technical but not from player view.
that why they forcefully apply updates making wormholes less attractive
Ruffio Sepico
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
#29 - 2014-08-28 19:35:20 UTC
Amak Boma wrote:
do ccp has any experience about wormholes?
do they actually lived in them?
no! they know them from technical but not from player view.
that why they forcefully apply updates making wormholes less attractive


I guess the question more like if CCP play their own game much at all these days. There is a big difference between develop a game you want to play yourself, or develop a game you want other people to play. If you can manage both, sure fine. The reactions lately just show things not fine.
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#30 - 2014-08-28 22:50:04 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:
No doubt when CCP finally get round to "fixing" local chat in K-space


Dawwwww, that's so cute! CCP will only "fix" local chat when their nullsec overlords tell them to.

Nullseccers complain about WHers fighting on holes and then jumping away when the blob arrives: Mass changes make this much harder.

Nullseccers fly massive swarms of Harpies/Interceptors: Oh look, frigate only holes added. Guess all those T3s that people who live in wormholes use can't chase the frigate swarms anymore.

I mean half this patch looks like it was tailor made by request of nullsec.

I am disappoint, but sadly not very surprised.
Meytal
Doomheim
#31 - 2014-08-29 18:04:56 UTC
Paikis wrote:
I mean half this patch looks like it was tailor made by request of nullsec.

I am disappoint, but sadly not very surprised.

And Fozzie was in disbelief at the round table why Nullsec could be ecstatic about this update.
Saphire Dahl
Revenant Tactical
#32 - 2014-08-30 13:36:08 UTC
Bump because its true
Maduin Shi
MAGA Inc
#33 - 2014-08-30 20:56:54 UTC
Meytal wrote:
Paikis wrote:
I mean half this patch looks like it was tailor made by request of nullsec.

I am disappoint, but sadly not very surprised.

And Fozzie was in disbelief at the round table why Nullsec could be ecstatic about this update.


Well... the frig holes are w-space only... for now.

But mass/spawn distance change made picking off caps jumping through a nullsec hole easier than shooting ducks in a barrel. Goons were trolling the feedback thread on that change almost daily. So yeah they're happy. But their blue doughnut has never been more blue.

Fozzie.... well, was it just hard for him to "think w-space" and think through all the consequences of the Hyperion changes after leaving w-space alone for so long? I think so. But who knows. One thing is for sure, our feedback wasn't getting to him..I'm pretty sure we had Hyperion pegged as a "null-friendly" patch within about 24 hours of the devblog going up.
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