EVE General Discussion

Except, in video games, any action not expressly forbidden by the games rules is by definition a legal action.

What does right or wrong have to do with a video game? As long as it's within the rules there is no right or wrong.

As long as I've been playing online games (starting with mechwarrior 3) i've encountered such 'bleeding heart' e-honor players and I will never, EVER understand the mentality or how they like to look down on others who are just playing within the rules. Why would you choose to play a shooting game if you're gonna feel bad about shooting people.

What you do makes as much sense as being a member of PETA while also choosing to play Deer Hunter.

If I were to take a guess, I'd say it was your post history.



Now that is rich.



Whether someone has a fighting chance or not is up to them. My ability to shoot at them, fortunately, does not hinge on whether or not they chose correctly.

Hm, i thought pvp in eve is too cheap, lol.
U can fit frig or destroyer in meta for 2-3 millions and get pretty nice fights with that. U can fit with t2 frig for like 10 millions, destroyer for like 15 millions or t1 cruiser for like 30 millions and get a lot of fights with that. Its really low amount of money, when most of players getting like 40+ millions in a hour of pve.
And u are not instalosing pvp ship after undocking, u can fly at it for a pretty long time, maybe several hours. If u got some problem with money - u can go in faction wars, there are a lot of money for just getting offensive plexes.

So, im totally disagree with thread starter, you can always find affordable pvp for your own resourses, it can be everything, starting from 2kk for frigate/destroyer in meta and ending with 3+*** pirate battleship. That pvp is pretty hard and insteresting, u always can kick some ass even if he spent a lot more money for that pvp than u.

I just wanted to highlight this because this is illustrates a key point in the philosophical divide that is always apparent on these forums. It's more than "good" vs "evil" or the haves vs the have nots or the creative vs the lazy.

It's "who is responsible here".

The people I tend to agree with here (who are also the people who fit well into the game AND gain more enjoyment from the game) are people who have a deep sense of personal responsibility regarding the game play experience. They know it's on them to make things right for the most part. That's why you don't see them screeching at CCP over every imagined slight.

Then there are those 'other people', the ones who think that the world (including CCP) owes them something (above 15 bux worth of game world access), the ones who feel like CCP should somehow protect them from other people despite the fact that it was CCP who built this intentionally free universe to begin with. They are ALWAYS UNHAPPY about something, don't enjoy the game as much because "it's not as good as it could be" and have this tendency to call people (who actually enjoy the game product they decided to pay for) 'fanbois' because they aren't raging insanely at CCP like they are.

The funny thing is that 2nd group considers themselves 'the good guys' lol.

I've tried and tried, and I just cant say the above without having to pause once to take a breath.

I see a lot of people saying you don't need t2 modules on a t1 frig. These people are idiots and will die to every other correctly fitted t1 frig.

I prefer t2 modules on my t1 frig... because I can fit them and can afford them. meta 3-4 are perfectly acceptable and completely lethal variations on the same thing for those who do not have either the skills or the iskies for the t2. You don't have to spend as much as possible to make a ship viable, sometimes you can go the cheap route and be nearly as effective. Ultimately it's the skill of the person behind the keyboard that makes the biggest difference.

Can I turn this around a little? PvP is too expensive for older players. Do you know how much my clone costs?

I was also Captain of the Knowlege Bowl team. I don't think you are being respectful to other players. A thread was locked yesterday for such things.