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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#761 - 2014-09-03 15:58:12 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Personally I just petition CCP to reset the mission if the mission object is stolen, which they seem happy to do.


Hah, that's not going to last much longer.


And pray tell why not? Has there been an announced change to this?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#762 - 2014-09-03 16:07:25 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

2. I am quite familiar with the game and good at it, and don't really care what you think




And I just realized who you are. You are Divine Entervention's new alt.


I wouldn't be surprised at all.


OMFG this just blew my mind. This makes sense - he's so cocksure and ignorant at the same time.

Can I just point out he's not very familiar with the game or good at it at all? I stole a corp name off him today, and would have stolen more if I had the alts for it but it was pretty easy to do.


I'd rather inflict 30-1 economic victories than steal corp names. I will leave it to others to decide who the victor is.


Delusional too, definitely DE.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#763 - 2014-09-03 16:14:34 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:


Delusional too, definitely DE.


I learned it from here. http://www.minerbumping.com/2012/09/experimental-fun-times-corp-wins-its.html
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#764 - 2014-09-03 16:15:46 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:



Well, I have a few ways to do it:

I'll either jump in the mission and start popping triggers, jump in, pop, and take the mission object, Or just jump in and start killing rats faster than the missioner can.

There are LOTS of mission runners who haven't learned the joys of blitzing yet, and they get REAL upset when you bounce in, "steal" every kill but the frigs, loot, salvage, and bop away.

Killing the mission object and legally taking the mish loot is fun too. That generates tons of frantic evemails, and "OMG sum dude just stole muh (object) for (mission) how I reset it??" pleas in help chat.


And if they can't/won't respond optimally they deserve to lose their ship. Personally I just petition CCP to reset the mission if the mission object is stolen, which they seem happy to do.

I can see them doing this if something were actually WRONG with your mission. But what you suggest is frivolously annoying the GM's because someone messed with your cookie. Your mission is not a bloody instance, you are not guaranteed super happy safe time while in said mission. If another player decides to interfere with your mission that is absolutely fair gameplay. If you're bringing in the GM's in response to this you should feel bad because you are being a BAD eve player.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#765 - 2014-09-03 16:21:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Veers Belvar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


Delusional too, definitely DE.


I learned it from here. http://www.minerbumping.com/2012/09/experimental-fun-times-corp-wins-its.html


Whelp, my left pinky toe learns more in a minute than you think you have about EVE total.

Also, James still has his corp. You don't. I took the one you had, and you had to make a different one. James won, you lost. How can you fail to see that? CODE never loses, it's that simple.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#766 - 2014-09-03 16:21:43 UTC
Savnire Jacitu
Undead Retirement Crypt
#767 - 2014-09-03 16:35:50 UTC
How? How in the utter hell is this thread still going?

The OP and I had time to make nice, I hope to see him killing ships eventually, or better yet joining up with me in due time.

Like it or not, other people are playing this game, and in EVE, player interaction mostly involves explosions afterwards. Suck it up and walk on, or kill the ones trying to kill you. Or better yet, become their friend. I've made better/more friends from killing and being killed than I have any other way.

-Sav
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#768 - 2014-09-03 16:39:25 UTC
Savnire Jacitu wrote:
How? How in the utter hell is this thread still going?

The OP and I had time to make nice, I hope to see him killing ships eventually, or better yet joining up with me in due time.

Like it or not, other people are playing this game, and in EVE, player interaction mostly involves explosions afterwards. Suck it up and walk on, or kill the ones trying to kill you. Or better yet, become their friend. I've made better/more friends from killing and being killed than I have any other way.

-Sav

Veers Belvar has taken it upon himself to "tame " us , Might be worth a couple of weeks torment if your into that.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#769 - 2014-09-03 16:55:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Lord Nukington wrote:
Having learned a lot in a short time thanks to this thread, I see I was wrong about a few (more than a few things.)
Firstly: Just because I don't like being the victim of a play style (Not saying I don't like the playstyle itself, because who knows, a few months or years down the road I may find myself trying it) that doesn't make it griefing.

Secondly, coming on here to whine isn't going to do me any favors on a social level or fix my problem, even though in this case it did net me a wealth of knowledge.

Third: **** this game is complex. I mean, damn. Also: I didn't know the difference between killing and podding (I thought podding was destroying your ship while leaving you in a pod, while killing was in turn destroying that pod. Guess I had it backwards.)

I'm not going to delete my post, I believe in posterity and learning from my mistakes, and this thread was indeed a wealth of knowledge. May it serve as benefit to others as well.


OMFG, I just noticed this when someone else mentioned it. WELL DONE. You went from "just another butt hurt loser" to real, honest to (Icelandic Pagan) God EVE PLAYER in one forum discussion lol. Most people NEVER get there (See: Veers and NoLife).

You're 1st point that I highlighted isn't a point, it is THE point. The whole point of EVE. imo.

I've never been successfully ganked, but I've been killed in every other way. My 1st reaction was RAGE (how DARE someone one kill ME, don't THEY know who I AM, I'm the ruler of all things great and small damn it). That usually last 5 seconds. Then I feel annoyance at the loss (another 5 seconds) followed by laughter at how silly I am (10 seconds) followed by "how can I get revenge" (20 seconds) and lastly "what did I do wrong this time and how can I get better so this doesn't happen again (the rest of my natural life).

At no time was my reaction be something like "this is BS, i need to go on the forums and tell everyone, so everyone will get behind me and make CCP change it so these evil bad people can't make me sad any more" lol.

Some people (unlike you) will always cling to that 'run to mommie' tactic despite evidence that it never works and only makes things worse. Just ask ole Veers, because not only does CCP not support what he thinks, he's also created an entire forum posse of people who will now RESIST (by organizing our friends, alliances and like minded fellow players) any attempt by CCP to bring about any kind of changes he'd like to see.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#770 - 2014-09-03 16:58:33 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Lord Nukington wrote:
Having learned a lot in a short time thanks to this thread, I see I was wrong about a few (more than a few things.)
Firstly: Just because I don't like being the victim of a play style (Not saying I don't like the playstyle itself, because who knows, a few months or years down the road I may find myself trying it) that doesn't make it griefing.

Secondly, coming on here to whine isn't going to do me any favors on a social level or fix my problem, even though in this case it did net me a wealth of knowledge.

Third: **** this game is complex. I mean, damn. Also: I didn't know the difference between killing and podding (I thought podding was destroying your ship while leaving you in a pod, while killing was in turn destroying that pod. Guess I had it backwards.)

I'm not going to delete my post, I believe in posterity and learning from my mistakes, and this thread was indeed a wealth of knowledge. May it serve as benefit to others as well.


OMFG, I just noticed this when someone else mentioned it. WELL DONE. You went from "just another butt hurt loser" to real, honest to (Icelandic Pagan) God EVE PLAYER in one forum discussion lol. Most people NEVER get there (See: Veers and NoLife).

You're 1st point that I highlighted isn't a point, it is THE point. The whole point of EVE. imo.

I've never been successfully ganked, but I've been killed in every other way. My 1st reaction was RAGE (how DARE someone one kill ME, don't THEY know who I AM, I'm the ruler of all things great and small damn it). That usually last 5 seconds. Then I feel annoyance at the loss (another 5 seconds) followed by laughter at how silly I am (10 seconds) followed by "how can I get revenge" (20 seconds) and lastly "what did I do wrong this time and how can I get better so this doesn't happen again (the rest of my natural life).

At no time was my reaction be something like "this is BS, i need to go on the forums and tell everyone, so everyone will get behind me and make CCP change it so these evil bad people can't make me sad any more" lol.

Some people (unlike you) will always cling to that 'run to mommie' tactic despite evidence that it never works and only makes things worse. Just ask ole Veers, because not only does CCP not support what he thinks, he's also created an entire forum posse of people who will now RESIST (by organizing our friends, alliances and like minded fellow players) any attempt by CCP to bring about any kind of changes he'd like to see.


You do realize that I support the current wardecc mechanic and oppose any changes to protect now/non-pvp oriented players, right?
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#771 - 2014-09-03 17:00:10 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


Delusional too, definitely DE.


I learned it from here. http://www.minerbumping.com/2012/09/experimental-fun-times-corp-wins-its.html


Whelp, my left pinky toe learns more in a minute than you think you have about EVE total.

Also, James still has his corp. You don't. I took the one you had, and you had to make a different one. James won, you lost. How can you fail to see that? CODE never loses, it's that simple.


Yawn.....you spent 50 mil, i spent 1.6 mil...seems to be a win to me. And this is another example why the wardecc mechanic is just fine and does not need changes. Highsec players - take note - there is no reason to cry to CCP - just disband, reform (oh dear you may need to add a new word to the name) - and triumphantly declare a 30-1 economic victory.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#772 - 2014-09-03 17:01:48 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Lord Nukington wrote:
Having learned a lot in a short time thanks to this thread, I see I was wrong about a few (more than a few things.)
Firstly: Just because I don't like being the victim of a play style (Not saying I don't like the playstyle itself, because who knows, a few months or years down the road I may find myself trying it) that doesn't make it griefing.

Secondly, coming on here to whine isn't going to do me any favors on a social level or fix my problem, even though in this case it did net me a wealth of knowledge.

Third: **** this game is complex. I mean, damn. Also: I didn't know the difference between killing and podding (I thought podding was destroying your ship while leaving you in a pod, while killing was in turn destroying that pod. Guess I had it backwards.)

I'm not going to delete my post, I believe in posterity and learning from my mistakes, and this thread was indeed a wealth of knowledge. May it serve as benefit to others as well.


OMFG, I just noticed this when someone else mentioned it. WELL DONE. You went from "just another butt hurt loser" to real, honest to (Icelandic Pagan) God EVE PLAYER in one forum discussion lol. Most people NEVER get there (See: Veers and NoLife).

You're 1st point that I highlighted isn't a point, it is THE point. The whole point of EVE. imo.

I've never been successfully ganked, but I've been killed in every other way. My 1st reaction was RAGE (how DARE someone one kill ME, don't THEY know who I AM, I'm the ruler of all things great and small damn it). That usually last 5 seconds. Then I feel annoyance at the loss (another 5 seconds) followed by laughter at how silly I am (10 seconds) followed by "how can I get revenge" (20 seconds) and lastly "what did I do wrong this time and how can I get better so this doesn't happen again (the rest of my natural life).

At no time was my reaction be something like "this is BS, i need to go on the forums and tell everyone, so everyone will get behind me and make CCP change it so these evil bad people can't make me sad any more" lol.

Some people (unlike you) will always cling to that 'run to mommie' tactic despite evidence that it never works and only makes things worse. Just ask ole Veers, because not only does CCP not support what he thinks, he's also created an entire forum posse of people who will now RESIST (by organizing our friends, alliances and like minded fellow players) any attempt by CCP to bring about any kind of changes he'd like to see.


I have no idea where this post is, but if you can provide a link in either yours or a new post, I will throw it a like.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#773 - 2014-09-03 17:03:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Veers Belvar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


Delusional too, definitely DE.


I learned it from here. http://www.minerbumping.com/2012/09/experimental-fun-times-corp-wins-its.html


Whelp, my left pinky toe learns more in a minute than you think you have about EVE total.

Also, James still has his corp. You don't. I took the one you had, and you had to make a different one. James won, you lost. How can you fail to see that? CODE never loses, it's that simple.


Yawn.....you spent 50 mil, i spent 1.6 mil...seems to be a win to me. And this is another example why the wardecc mechanic is just fine and does not need changes. Highsec players - take note - there is no reason to cry to CCP - just disband, reform (oh dear you may need to add a new word to the name) - and triumphantly declare a 30-1 economic victory.


Incorrect. 50mil was the cost of achieving my objective. That makes it a win for me. What it cost for you to make a new corp is irrelevant to me. Isk is irrelevant to me. The fact you still fail to get this is exactly what demonstrates to all of us that you are an incompetent moron that knows nothing about the game.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#774 - 2014-09-03 17:09:07 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Lord Nukington wrote:
Having learned a lot in a short time thanks to this thread, I see I was wrong about a few (more than a few things.)
Firstly: Just because I don't like being the victim of a play style (Not saying I don't like the playstyle itself, because who knows, a few months or years down the road I may find myself trying it) that doesn't make it griefing.

Secondly, coming on here to whine isn't going to do me any favors on a social level or fix my problem, even though in this case it did net me a wealth of knowledge.

Third: **** this game is complex. I mean, damn. Also: I didn't know the difference between killing and podding (I thought podding was destroying your ship while leaving you in a pod, while killing was in turn destroying that pod. Guess I had it backwards.)

I'm not going to delete my post, I believe in posterity and learning from my mistakes, and this thread was indeed a wealth of knowledge. May it serve as benefit to others as well.


OMFG, I just noticed this when someone else mentioned it. WELL DONE. You went from "just another butt hurt loser" to real, honest to (Icelandic Pagan) God EVE PLAYER in one forum discussion lol. Most people NEVER get there (See: Veers and NoLife).

You're 1st point that I highlighted isn't a point, it is THE point. The whole point of EVE. imo.

I've never been successfully ganked, but I've been killed in every other way. My 1st reaction was RAGE (how DARE someone one kill ME, don't THEY know who I AM, I'm the ruler of all things great and small damn it). That usually last 5 seconds. Then I feel annoyance at the loss (another 5 seconds) followed by laughter at how silly I am (10 seconds) followed by "how can I get revenge" (20 seconds) and lastly "what did I do wrong this time and how can I get better so this doesn't happen again (the rest of my natural life).

At no time was my reaction be something like "this is BS, i need to go on the forums and tell everyone, so everyone will get behind me and make CCP change it so these evil bad people can't make me sad any more" lol.

Some people (unlike you) will always cling to that 'run to mommie' tactic despite evidence that it never works and only makes things worse. Just ask ole Veers, because not only does CCP not support what he thinks, he's also created an entire forum posse of people who will now RESIST (by organizing our friends, alliances and like minded fellow players) any attempt by CCP to bring about any kind of changes he'd like to see.


I have no idea where this post is, but if you can provide a link in either yours or a new post, I will throw it a like.


Very 1st post in this thread, the OP editted.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#775 - 2014-09-03 17:12:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Lord Nukington wrote:
Having learned a lot....


You have indeed, well done.

Do you see, Veers, how even the newbros demonstrate their superiority over you?

Lord Nukington wrote:
I believe in posterity and learning from my mistakes


You will make for a dangerous entity in EVE online someday with that attitude. Not only that, but you will enjoy it more than you were when you first posted. Your EVE revelation feels good, doesn't it? I remember when I had mine, that moment where you truly realise the nature of EVE. And I remember some of the things I posted on these forums, and how wrong I was.

Welcome to EVE, and may your stay be blessed with many exploding pixels, both of your own and your enemies vessels.

Fly smart newbro.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#776 - 2014-09-03 17:13:04 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Lord Nukington wrote:
Having learned a lot....


You have indeed, well done.

Do you see, Veers, how even the newbros demonstrate their superiority over you?


I'd rather have my 30-1 victory and ability to avoid fighting a war I wasn't interested in them. I'm not about to let anyone force me into PvP without my CONCORD allies.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#777 - 2014-09-03 17:15:56 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Lord Nukington wrote:
Having learned a lot....


You have indeed, well done.

Do you see, Veers, how even the newbros demonstrate their superiority over you?


I'd rather have my 30-1 victory and ability to avoid fighting a war I wasn't interested in them. I'm not about to let anyone force me into PvP without my CONCORD allies.


Parrots can also be taught to repeat the same thing over and over. Coincidentally, they share similar brain mass to you.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#778 - 2014-09-03 17:17:18 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:

I have no idea where this post is, but if you can provide a link in either yours or a new post, I will throw it a like.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4959567#post4959567
i remembered where it was, you don't see something like this all that oftenBlink

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#779 - 2014-09-03 17:18:59 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Lord Nukington wrote:
Having learned a lot....


You have indeed, well done.

Do you see, Veers, how even the newbros demonstrate their superiority over you?


I'd rather have my 30-1 victory and ability to avoid fighting a war I wasn't interested in them. I'm not about to let anyone force me into PvP without my CONCORD allies.

bet my 6:1 Success ratio was waaaaaaaay more fun than yours thoughPirate

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#780 - 2014-09-03 17:19:10 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Lord Nukington wrote:
Having learned a lot....


You have indeed, well done.

Do you see, Veers, how even the newbros demonstrate their superiority over you?


I'd rather have my 30-1 victory and ability to avoid fighting a war I wasn't interested in them. I'm not about to let anyone force me into PvP without my CONCORD allies.


Parrots can also be taught to repeat the same thing over and over. Coincidentally, they share similar brain mass to you.


Your searing insults are just too powerful. Do you come up with your own material?