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Evan Roc
Awakened Ones
#1 - 2014-08-26 22:59:59 UTC
Worm Holes are now swiss cheese with these stupid frig only holes, like really what is the point? Every hole we have scanned down today has a s couple of frig only holes attached. I am trying to find the good in this patch but with trying to figure out how to fix my overview and all these new useless holes I am really not to happy.

Lock this thread if you want but i am just one more unhappy paying customer. Evil
Admiral Synergy
Awakened Ones
#2 - 2014-08-26 23:11:06 UTC
This is insane.

Four wormholes I jump into in a row....

First one 5 wormholes (3 are frig only), 2 statics
Second one 6 wormholes (3 are frig only), 2 statics, 1 random
Third one 5 wormholes (2 are frig only), 2 statics, 1 random
Fourth one 4 wormholes (3 are frig only), 1 static

So I see a Buzzard on scan.... Let's follow him to see where he goes..... Oh great, he jumped through one of the frigate holes... what was the odds of that? About 50/50

The people who made these changes have no idea what it's like in wormhole space. The ideal of having a lone proteus or a solo tengu off exploring in search of killing / looting / exploring is long gone, when every 2nd wormhole you cannot jump through.

So let's see, as a solo pilot.... You cannot...

a) Run sites, because every hole has on average 5 wormholes to it now.
b) Hunt effectively, every scanner frigate you're trying to hunt will ultimately go through one of these frigate only holes. You can't even try and grab him on the hole because yay a blob of frigates might come grab you and you can't do anything to them.

So your option of running solo is to scan and scan and scan some more in your own cloaky frigate..... Or run around in a stealth bomber and shoot ventures.

And that about sums up wormhole space now.

Cheers CCP
Evan Roc
Awakened Ones
#3 - 2014-08-26 23:16:49 UTC
And here I thought the jump changes would be the worst thing lol . CCP are not in tune with the player base at all, if they were this patch would not have rolled out like this.
Admiral Synergy
Awakened Ones
#4 - 2014-08-26 23:21:26 UTC
Just to add...

These changes came about from people who do not live in wormholes voiceing their opinions. If you do not actively live in wormhole space, please don't bother commenting.

I've spent approximately 6 months solo hunting in wormhole space and I can honestly say that CCP has just nuked it with the amount of these frigate size holes popping up everywhere.

You cannot kill 80% of your targets solo in any ship that is possible in getting through these holes.
The other 20% of targets are the venture kills and scanning frigates, which are pretty lousy kills.
Hatshepsut IV
Un.Reasonable
#5 - 2014-08-26 23:22:24 UTC
I'd like to respond but this patch removed the sarcasm tab from my overview.

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Witchway
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#6 - 2014-08-26 23:32:47 UTC
the real bullshit is that you can't tell K162 frigate sized holes from normal K162s.

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Admiral Synergy
Awakened Ones
#7 - 2014-08-26 23:56:07 UTC
Oh yeah, every K162 I see is a deathtrap to any non frigate ship.

Let's see, you've scanned down a hole in your proteus / tengu / whatever you're in..... You warp to the hole at 10km. Oooh a K162....

But it doesn't tell you if it's a frigate only hole or regular.

So you uncloak next to it and try to jump. Only you can't. And some dude sitting in an astero uncloaks and points you and a bunch of frigates come through that were on the other side.

EVERY K162 IS A POTENTIAL DEATHTRAP. Which means, to non frigates, ALL frigate sized holes and ALL K162's are now offlimits.
Glyndi
Doom Generation
Best Intentions.
#8 - 2014-08-26 23:59:05 UTC
Admiral Synergy wrote:
Oh yeah, every K162 I see is a deathtrap to any non frigate ship.

Let's see, you've scanned down a hole in your proteus / tengu / whatever you're in..... You warp to the hole at 10km. Oooh a K162....

But it doesn't tell you if it's a frigate only hole or regular.

So you uncloak next to it and try to jump. Only you can't. And some dude sitting in an astero uncloaks and points you and a bunch of frigates come through that were on the other side.

EVERY K162 IS A POTENTIAL DEATHTRAP. Which means, to non frigates, ALL frigate sized holes and ALL K162's are now offlimits.



I actually like this, made me giggle.
O'nira
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-08-27 00:07:10 UTC
Frigates are fast and fun guys, hop in some frigates and go get some cheap and fast and exciting pvp against other fast and exciting frigates, and its all so cheap!

Works for k-space= works for w-space

Who doesn't like frigates
Admiral Synergy
Awakened Ones
#10 - 2014-08-27 00:08:37 UTC
If you read above, unless you live in wormholes don't comment.

It's people like you that got changes like this into wormholes in the first place.

If you want to do frigate roams, go to lowsec.
Evan Roc
Awakened Ones
#11 - 2014-08-27 00:09:30 UTC
I love Frigs, use them in LS and on some Null ganks. They are not the go to ship in W space though.
HerrBert
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-08-27 00:14:17 UTC
Rules of Acquisition is your Corp Name
...


So why are you made when CCP Fengi-ed the credit out of you as "a paying customer"

also ... i think being roflstomped by a notable wormhole corp qualifies as having a saying in wormholes space... soooo

Admiral Synergy KNOW YOUR PLACE!


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Andiedeath
We Aim To MisBehave
Kenshin Shogunate.
#13 - 2014-08-27 00:29:02 UTC
Evan Roc wrote:
I love Frigs, use them in LS and on some Null ganks. They are not the go to ship in W space though.


I dont agree Evan. The Frigate WHs are great. As the NPSI roam groups have proven you can take down entire fleets of shinys with a group of Assault Frigates. You just need to think of doctrine that works.

The frigate wormholes will be fantastic and I cannot wait to fall victim to the first swarm that entres our WH. Ship explosions are great either way. I also cant wait to get the first carrier kill by a frigate blob... That will be epic!

GREAT WORK CCP!

Wormholes needed a shake up and THIS IS JUST WHAT THE DOCTOR ORDERED! Along with ALL the otehr changes. Granted rolling holes is a little more painful but its still easy peezy...

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Evan Roc
Awakened Ones
#14 - 2014-08-27 00:32:57 UTC
Did TF get your account info? lol To each their own Andi I still do not like the changes and think they are a fix tor problem that didn't exist.
Andiedeath
We Aim To MisBehave
Kenshin Shogunate.
#15 - 2014-08-27 00:33:41 UTC
Admiral Synergy wrote:
Oh yeah, every K162 I see is a deathtrap to any non frigate ship.

Let's see, you've scanned down a hole in your proteus / tengu / whatever you're in..... You warp to the hole at 10km. Oooh a K162....

But it doesn't tell you if it's a frigate only hole or regular.

So you uncloak next to it and try to jump. Only you can't. And some dude sitting in an astero uncloaks and points you and a bunch of frigates come through that were on the other side.

EVERY K162 IS A POTENTIAL DEATHTRAP. Which means, to non frigates, ALL frigate sized holes and ALL K162's are now offlimits.


This is although a point. Maybe something in the discription to suggest its a frigate only k162?

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Sefem Velox

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Andiedeath
We Aim To MisBehave
Kenshin Shogunate.
#16 - 2014-08-27 00:36:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Andiedeath
Evan Roc wrote:
Did TF get your account info? lol To each their own Andi I still do not like the changes and think they are a fix tor problem that didn't exist.


Actually no... LOL! He and I dont agree on all of these changes. I like them all generally as I think WH space has been stagnate for too long... It is the shake up we needed even if some of it is a pain in the ass... It will make us think more about our doctrines and how we go about crusiing the 'no local' space we love!

Its a new game... ;)

EDIT: Now I only hope they do the same to Null sec!

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Sefem Velox

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ISD Alliance
#17 - 2014-08-27 00:40:29 UTC
Please direct your issues/concerns with Hyperion to this thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4955662

As this is a redundant thread, it is closed.

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