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Idea for Recruiting Agents!! I would PAY!
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Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#1 - 2014-08-26 15:52:36 UTC
Ive been recruiting for my own corporation and as most recruiters know its a HARD job.

In the real world they have these recruitment and employment agencies for employees and employers etc. IF someone finds me the right pilots for my organization I would certainly pay a certain amount of isk to the 3rd party recruiter...

I had been looking for pilots and referring the ones that were not a fit for us to other corps and alliances that I know.

As far as I can tell, there are no recruiting agents in Eve. If a recruiter would be willing to refer a pilot to us, walk them through the API process without me having to do it, and lets say they find me a pilot skilled over 20 mil SP with a good attitude, mic, and fairly clean API; yeh i might be willing to pay something like 30 million isk.

IF said recruiter found us a lower skilled or noobish pilot, meh Id pay 5 to 15 mil per head.

I dont have time to setup such a service myself, but people REALLY should! Why Have I not heard of such a service in Eve? We have red frog freight, we have locates are us, where are the headhunters?

-Max

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2014-08-26 15:53:30 UTC
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Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#3 - 2014-08-26 16:09:48 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
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This is not a feature idea, its an idea for a player run organization.

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Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#4 - 2014-08-26 16:11:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Joshua Foiritain
Players have done this in the past but generally it ended with one of the two sides getting scammed/robbed/sabotaged.

Maximillian Bonaparte wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
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This is not a feature idea, its an idea for a player run organization.

He doesn't actually read posts, he just spams random topics. Blink

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#5 - 2014-08-26 16:13:00 UTC
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Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#6 - 2014-08-26 16:13:21 UTC
Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#7 - 2014-08-26 16:14:39 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
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*sigh*

From recruitment forum rules:
"Remember, this channel is for recruiting only. It is not an open forum for discussing the merits (or lack thereof) of a corporation or any of its members. Keep posts on topic."

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embrel
BamBam Inc.
#8 - 2014-08-26 16:18:16 UTC
Maximillian Bonaparte wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
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Torneach Structor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-08-26 16:26:48 UTC
Looks like some adjustments need to be made for 0.90.

FuryBot's having trouble on this one.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#10 - 2014-08-26 16:28:17 UTC
Nevermind Doc Fury. I think it's the best idea posted on GD today. Player-run recruitment agencies... I like the idea.
Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#11 - 2014-08-26 16:30:01 UTC
Joshua Foiritain wrote:
Players have done this in the past but generally it ended with one of the two sides getting scammed/robbed/sabotaged.

Maximillian Bonaparte wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
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This is not a feature idea, its an idea for a player run organization.

He doesn't actually read posts, he just spams random topics. Blink


Yah know this is a good point...NOw WAT!?

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Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#12 - 2014-08-26 16:32:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximillian Bonaparte
a recruting agent can use a created toon or bought toon (if he has time) and infiltrate and steal over and over again unless...such agent developes a good rep on the level of Red Frog or Chribba etc...

There would have to be safeguards in place.

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-08-26 18:54:34 UTC
We actually had the very same idea quite a while back, and I still think it's great.

It was more planned like a matchmaking agency, where both players looking for a corp and CEOs looking for new players would fill out questionnaires and you would try to find the right corp for the right player and vice versa.

The plan was to have this service for free for both pilots and corps.
The business model was slightly akin to facebook or google..your real profit would have been an ever growing database, with high class Intel that could be sold to anyone willing to pay the price.

When we realized how much time and effort that project would have required, we all bailed out- it would have been a full time job to get all that organized.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-08-26 19:10:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Maximillian Bonaparte wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
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This is not a feature idea, its an idea for a player run organization.


The section is called Features AND Ideas, not feature ideas. Your IDEA counts as an idea, therefore it belongs in Features & Ideas. Get it?

Also, posting in a stealth 'nerf effort' thread.

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Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#15 - 2014-08-29 23:34:40 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Maximillian Bonaparte wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
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This is not a feature idea, its an idea for a player run organization.


The section is called Features AND Ideas, not feature ideas. Your IDEA counts as an idea, therefore it belongs in Features & Ideas. Get it?

Also, posting in a stealth 'nerf effort' thread.


Your an idiot.

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Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#16 - 2014-08-29 23:38:49 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
We actually had the very same idea quite a while back, and I still think it's great.

It was more planned like a matchmaking agency, where both players looking for a corp and CEOs looking for new players would fill out questionnaires and you would try to find the right corp for the right player and vice versa.

The plan was to have this service for free for both pilots and corps.
The business model was slightly akin to facebook or google..your real profit would have been an ever growing database, with high class Intel that could be sold to anyone willing to pay the price.

When we realized how much time and effort that project would have required, we all bailed out- it would have been a full time job to get all that organized.


It might...but everything in this damn game takes time! You could simply have 10 clients (corps) who pay on varying scale according to your services, and then ...follow up with all potential recruits to see if they made it into their corp. Take an initial deposit for services, and then take the rest when recruit is recruited.

Let me be clear this is a totally player-run content idea like Red Frog Freight or any number of for-hire organizations in eve.

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-08-30 00:15:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Sibyyl
If anyone is to establish a service, they need to set up a way to demonstrate that they are trustworthy (see example from Chribba). Edit: Not doing this means some yahoo is going to load your corp up with their alts or awoxers or both.


If someone wanted to do it, they would have.. so either it's not lucrative enough, or no one cares. I'm not putting you down, OP.. I'm trying to say that everything in EVE is a supply-demand based market, including meta services like the kind you describe.

I think you need to realize that this kind of work isn't going to be done for 5 to 15 mil per head. It is too low. The cost of *screening* a specific someone alone is way more than that.. so headhunting has to cost extra.

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Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-08-30 03:08:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Caviar Liberta
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
We actually had the very same idea quite a while back, and I still think it's great.

It was more planned like a matchmaking agency, where both players looking for a corp and CEOs looking for new players would fill out questionnaires and you would try to find the right corp for the right player and vice versa.

The plan was to have this service for free for both pilots and corps.
The business model was slightly akin to facebook or google..your real profit would have been an ever growing database, with high class Intel that could be sold to anyone willing to pay the price.

When we realized how much time and effort that project would have required, we all bailed out- it would have been a full time job to get all that organized.


A means to filter a pilots SP and skills someone might be looking for might be useful if you could automate the following.

Client Request:

Character age => x

Skill Tree

[Insert skill requirement and Skill Level list]

I would imagine a lot this could be done with API information.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-08-30 03:38:54 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:


A means to filter a pilots SP and skills someone might be looking for might be useful if you could automate the following.

Client Request:

Character age => x

Skill Tree

[Insert skill requirement and Skill Level list]

I would imagine a lot this could be done with API information.



I've made an exhaustive list here.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#20 - 2014-08-30 16:36:00 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
We actually had the very same idea quite a while back, and I still think it's great.

It was more planned like a matchmaking agency, where both players looking for a corp and CEOs looking for new players would fill out questionnaires and you would try to find the right corp for the right player and vice versa.

The plan was to have this service for free for both pilots and corps.
The business model was slightly akin to facebook or google..your real profit would have been an ever growing database, with high class Intel that could be sold to anyone willing to pay the price.

When we realized how much time and effort that project would have required, we all bailed out- it would have been a full time job to get all that organized.


A means to filter a pilots SP and skills someone might be looking for might be useful if you could automate the following.

Client Request:

Character age => x

Skill Tree

[Insert skill requirement and Skill Level list]

I would imagine a lot this could be done with API information.


There are some resources for coding such apps to do exactly that; have been talking to a friend to use that data for another project but could be applied to recruitment easily. Could code some parameters like "if donations = > 500000000" among other parameters then Flag=yes" or cross reference with known awoxer or corp thieves list if you have one in a mysql database; a query against such a database could flag right away. I should talk to my friend about coding this (as I dont have time to do it myself).


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