Intergalactic Summit

Interesting question, Shaman.

I would never disgrace my Ancestors, of course.
Nor would I settle, acknowledge the Thukker Tribe as part of the Republic, or knowingly harm a child.

Other than that, anything goes.

My line is when people try to spin a simple thread as a way to smear some one. In other words, get ****** Jinari you self righteous little ****.

There is a significant distinction between the practical and the theoretical in this sort of question. It is all well and good to say that there are uncrossable lines when discussing hypotheticals, but it is a different thing altogether when one finds oneself in an emotional decision-making moment. Similarly, uncrossable lines are only made theoretically clear beforehand through the use of hypothetical situations that may have no resemblance to reality. Clear, straightforward hypothetical situations may help us organize our worldview in our minds and discourses but they are hypothetical for a reason - it is only through the removal of the majority of context that one can find that level of clarity.

Uncrossable lines, in reality, are only discovered afterward when it can be shown that one did not in fact cross them.

How might this function without becoming tautological? If you choose a goal because it eliminates the possibility of violating your moral principles, does that not mean that not violating your moral principles is in fact the actual goal and whatever it is that you are filling your time with is merely a means to that goal? You are choosing a goal because it is your goal, is what I am saying. Perhaps I am misunderstanding your statement, but I am curious.

That's a fair point. My immediate reaction is that it's possible to have more than one life goal, of which one of mine would be "don't violate my moral principles" but now you've pointed it out I can see how that verges on the redundant. Hmm.

I can see I'll have to give Kyllsa's question some more thought.

Just so long as we learn from other people's experience as well as our own. A line may only be visible in hindsight, but that doesn't mean that I have to be the one who first crosses it.

Sometimes, in the dark, it can be hard to get the proper perspective or to see clearly enough to learn lessons from afar.

What if one has no goals?

Imagine a surfer atop a sea wave. What is his goal? To stay afloat until the wave crashes and to have fun. Imagine a skydiver falling through the atmosphere mile after mile. What is his goal? To survive the landing and to have fun, perhaps, to take some selfies and post them to be wow'ed at. Imagine a skydiver falling through the atmosphere of a large gas giant. One way ticket. There'll be no landing. Perhaps, some selfies to post, yes, and lots of fun during those minutes of descent. Then, nothing.

But are those selfies and fun the real goal, especially if someone was thrown there without consent, or after signing up for something else entirely? Then what is the goal? To feel the wind against the thin suit and to awe at the majesty of the immense cloudscape stretching before you, at the thunderstorms capable to devour Matar whole, to greet the stars and the ring splitting the horizon in two. Then, suffer for a while - because pressure - and die.

Poetry aside, I try to minimize collateral damage and to not betray people. Sentient beings that have emotions, such as infomorphs, count as "people". Other than that, anything goes. Especially towards eggers.

What if there is no goal to keep on living? In capsuleers, that is perfectly possible and, i'd say, quite common. There is no active desire to commit the final suicide, but zero self-preservation anyway. Then what?

I'd argue with that, but i'm too bored, really.

Hint: Alpha clones are sponsored by governments en masse. One can suicide as often as he/she wishes, get podded to an alpha clone and yet come back for more insane sheetz and giggles for free. The final death requires either a conscious decision, or an upload error that can happen to anyone regardless of their will to live.