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The color diversity is gone

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Acac Sunflyier
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#1 - 2011-11-23 13:06:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Acac Sunflyier
So I really like a lot of Crucible. But, something is lost. All the gallente ships are turning black or black and brown. What's up with this? I mean yeah I know we are getting custom paint jobs. But I feel as if the ishkur is loosing something and something is wrong if we have to take an extra step to change the ishkur back to the green it was.


Dear CCP,

Is this all about custom pain jobs? If it is, please give the pain jobs to the players to build. Like there could be a blue print you can buy a batlte ship sized blue print called Intaki red. It produced "B.S. Intaki Red" and it can only be used on battleships and it can use PI materials too. Please don't leave the community in a dark shadow world and have to pay aur for color to be breathed onto their ships.

With Regards,
Acac Sunflyier
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-11-23 13:19:17 UTC
It seems all the ships are slowly, very slowly changing into the same black and grey blobs, not good Cry

Come on CCP, I want to see neon green pin stripes on my Inty's and Orange/Red flames on my Abbadon Big smile
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-11-23 13:20:07 UTC
wasnt gallante brown/gold long time ago ?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#4 - 2011-11-23 13:26:17 UTC
Gallente getting old and dirty. Blink

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Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Lucien Visteen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-11-23 13:27:39 UTC
They are giving the ships one uniform colour scheme so that when they introduce ship customisation it will be with responses like "Oh god, yes!! CCP rules!"

Instead of. "Meh, I like the color of my ship just the way it is, no need to change."

You read it here first Blink

ps. The new skin on the vulture looks sweet. Worth go taking a look at on sisi

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David Grogan
NerdHerd
#6 - 2011-11-23 13:52:34 UTC
1-Up Mushroom wrote:
It seems all the ships are slowly, very slowly changing into the same black and grey blobs, not good Cry

Come on CCP, I want to see neon green pin stripes on my Inty's and Orange/Red flames on my Abbadon Big smile


i think they are doing that so that the ships will be more compatible with custom skins..... kinda like filming actors doing their bit in front of blue screens in movie production then adding the cgi effects later

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Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
#7 - 2011-11-23 14:00:05 UTC
You can have any colour ford you want, as long as it's black.

Get it?

Oddly the new colour schemes seem more in line with the 2008 WIS styles ... not the new "look at me I'm in a t-shirt!" eve.

Why there aren't colour sliders on your ship that you can adjust is a mystery to me, I guess CCP wants you to be as free as an ipod user when customizing your ships.
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Lord Ryan
True Xero
#8 - 2011-11-23 14:00:35 UTC
pics or it didn't happen!

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Vachir Khan
Rugged Ruff and Ready
#9 - 2011-11-23 14:33:53 UTC
Gallente on Sisi now looks a decent blue, the T1 ships at least. The Deimos looks fantastic on sisi, so does the Astarte. Space camo is still space camo; ugly crap that doesn't make sense.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
#10 - 2011-11-23 14:37:13 UTC
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
So I really like a lot of Crucible. But, something is lost. All the gallente ships are turning black or black and brown. What's up with this? I mean yeah I know we are getting custom paint jobs. But I feel as if the ishkur is loosing something and something is wrong if we have to take an extra step to change the ishkur back to the green it was.


Dear CCP,

Is this all about custom pain jobs? If it is, please give the pain jobs to the players to build. Like there could be a blue print you can buy a batlte ship sized blue print called Intaki red. It produced "B.S. Intaki Red" and it can only be used on battleships and it can use PI materials too. Please don't leave the community in a dark shadow world and have to pay aur for color to be breathed onto their ships.

With Regards,
Acac Sunflyier


marketing 101

if you want to sell custom paint jobs, the original should be as ugly as possible as to "inspire" players to spend their money on a decent skin

Nothing has changed but the means of rooking us
Kisuke Riva
Border World Exports.
#11 - 2011-11-23 14:37:17 UTC
Black is beautiful. :)
Vincent Gaines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-11-23 14:43:30 UTC
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
Why there aren't colour sliders on your ship that you can adjust is a mystery to me, I guess CCP wants you to be as free as an ipod user when customizing your ships.


I am not a programmer or graphic artist type person, but I suppose it has to do with the way textures are applied to the ships, in that they are not an adjustment of base color but an actual full-on texture applied, and that there is no option to just adjust the hue and saturation of a hull given the dynamic lighting and other graphical options in the game.

Not a diplo. 

The above post was edited for spelling.

ac0lite
Space Wizardry LLC
#13 - 2011-11-23 14:48:05 UTC  |  Edited by: ac0lite
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
Why there aren't colour sliders on your ship that you can adjust is a mystery to me, I guess CCP wants you to be as free as an ipod user when customizing your ships.


Its probably because it would be difficult to implement. I don't know how Eve's shader system works, but (real-time) dynamic colour alteration isn't as simple as photoshop... could be seriously resource intensive to do.



But @ the OP; yeah, I kind of agree. I do like the old colour distinction. Hopefully the new V3 process will give us some sexy faction/t2 ships, though :)
Morganta
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
#14 - 2011-11-23 14:53:32 UTC
Vincent Gaines wrote:
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
Why there aren't colour sliders on your ship that you can adjust is a mystery to me, I guess CCP wants you to be as free as an ipod user when customizing your ships.


I am not a programmer or graphic artist type person, but I suppose it has to do with the way textures are applied to the ships, in that they are not an adjustment of base color but an actual full-on texture applied, and that there is no option to just adjust the hue and saturation of a hull given the dynamic lighting and other graphical options in the game.


yes it typically is a texture
it does have various adjustments mostly relating to how light interacts with the texture, how much it reflects, what the base color is, what color it reflects and so-on.
saturation is more a function of the ambient light, the more light the higher the saturation, hue is determined in the color choice (pick from a palette)

Now there is the outside chance a graphics card will render it black if the card cant handle the advanced lighting.
I'll have a better idea when I can actually see the ship
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#15 - 2011-11-23 14:53:48 UTC
Ships have graphics?

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#16 - 2011-11-23 15:00:14 UTC
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
So I really like a lot of Crucible. But, something is lost. All the gallente ships are turning black or black and brown. What's up with this? I mean yeah I know we are getting custom paint jobs. But I feel as if the ishkur is loosing something and something is wrong if we have to take an extra step to change the ishkur back to the green it was.


Dear CCP,

Is this all about custom pain jobs? If it is, please give the pain jobs to the players to build. Like there could be a blue print you can buy a batlte ship sized blue print called Intaki red. It produced "B.S. Intaki Red" and it can only be used on battleships and it can use PI materials too. Please don't leave the community in a dark shadow world and have to pay aur for color to be breathed onto their ships.

With Regards,
Acac Sunflyier


They could go either route. More logically you would turn in your ship hull, some PI products, and some AUR for labor and get the finished (painted) product.

To the purchaser it would be the same either way, to get the paint job done you need the raw player made materials and spend a little isk on top (or cash if you prefer).

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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#17 - 2011-11-23 15:00:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirk Magnum
Asked and answered.
CCP Choloepus wrote:
Not sure we should try to code away the brown though, sorry Dirk.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=363180#post363180

Looks like the drab colors are decided, for now, at least as the default colors. IMO it's only so people are encouraged to use the custom color feature, whenever it gets added. I really really hope it's not a plot to get people to buy AUR.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#18 - 2011-11-23 15:03:41 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Vincent Gaines wrote:
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
Why there aren't colour sliders on your ship that you can adjust is a mystery to me, I guess CCP wants you to be as free as an ipod user when customizing your ships.


I am not a programmer or graphic artist type person, but I suppose it has to do with the way textures are applied to the ships, in that they are not an adjustment of base color but an actual full-on texture applied, and that there is no option to just adjust the hue and saturation of a hull given the dynamic lighting and other graphical options in the game.


yes it typically is a texture
it does have various adjustments mostly relating to how light interacts with the texture, how much it reflects, what the base color is, what color it reflects and so-on.
saturation is more a function of the ambient light, the more light the higher the saturation, hue is determined in the color choice (pick from a palette)

Now there is the outside chance a graphics card will render it black if the card cant handle the advanced lighting.
I'll have a better idea when I can actually see the ship


Yep. Although I have to admit I haven't noticed ships becoming brown and black blobs on Sisi. Quite the contrary.

I keep everything turned up though, perhaps it's an issue with lower shader settings that is making them look that way. If that's the case, they should address it if possible. Lower detail should not necessarily mean "all the same color".

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#19 - 2011-11-23 15:14:58 UTC
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
custom pain jobs?


Be careful what you wish for.
Daneirkus Auralex
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-11-23 15:41:55 UTC
You know, CCP could announce that they were removing subscription fees from the game entirely, and every player is getting 10 billion isk deposited into their account - still people would find something to complain about.
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