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Contract Scams - how'd they do this one?
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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#21 - 2011-11-23 14:43:27 UTC
Sorry, i can't believe that someone who would really take precautions would end up with a BPC instead of the actual ship.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#22 - 2011-11-23 15:23:46 UTC
Don't buy anything off the contract system that is freely avaiable from the market you giant screaming ******.
Heian Galanodel
Gold Eagle Corporation
Gold Eagle Corporation Alliance
#23 - 2011-11-23 15:38:32 UTC
Kurama Bingyi wrote:
I was scammed out of 750mil ISK-worth of ships by Goonwaffe a few months back. I didn't know that they weren't recruiting, but they led me to believe that after a security deposit (which sparked my suspicion) and contracting all ships I wanted to bring with me for transport (which was just about everything I had. A Proteus, a Hyperion, a Drake, two Wolves...). I was actually pretty excited, because I'd -heard- of Goonswarm before and thought it'd be great to join a big Alliance.
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Dude. I feel ya man. The exact same thing happened to me. I wasn't too happy about giving 250mill over to a guy so I checked there website and it told me in big red letters "If you paid to get into Goonswarm you've been scammed and **** out of luck." Well I did just that even after reading it in plain English. Hard to admit but I deserved that wallet hit. Learned a lesson though. :) Gotta be happy about something. Lol

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Hauling Hal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2011-11-23 16:02:28 UTC
Zeet A'Dron wrote:
You know, I take a lot of efforts to "protect" myself in this game. As a matter of fact, probably too much for what is suposed to be an entertainment medium.

I'm not raging about being scammed persay. I'm raging about the fact that as far as I could tell there was no counter, no way I could have protected myself (other than outright not using contracts to buy stuff which is the lesson learned here).

I decided I wanted a new ship so I looked on contracts (mistake #1). I found the ship I wanted, fitted and rigged. I double checked, triped checked the contents of the contract to make sure it clearly stated "hulk" "exhumer" , not hulk blue print, but exhumer.

And of course when I completed the contract there was the ******* blue print.

Now, I've been playing this game long enough to realize that its full of scammers and botters. But I have to say I do grow a little tired (really tired actually) of playing a game that **only** has me looking behind my back all the time. Paranoia online? You're likely to develop some form of mental complex finishing the day each day like this.

So how did they do this one? How do you package a blue print to make it look exactly like a ship and when the hell will it be fixed?

Its one thing to get scammed because you weren't paying attention but I'm growing really really tired of all the game mechanics that are there just to screw you over.

Eve is a game of rock paper scissors until it comes to player economy and on a separate side, suicde ganks.

Then its just a rock to the balls and have a nice day.

I guess I know there is always soemthing a player could have done differently, but its a bit depressing that the different thing to do is to simply avoid using CCP's contract system.


Sometimes the word 'Blueprint' isn't shown if the colum width isn't wide enough or the window width is too small. I made the same mistake with what I thought was a rigged Itty 5.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#25 - 2011-11-23 16:34:10 UTC
I particularly like the ones where they are selling an item like a PLEX, and as part of the purchase price they require that item in return. So you pay your money and get the item, but it is then instantly yanked back out of your hanger to complete the transaction. Very basic, but apparently surprisingly effective.

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Sekket
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2011-11-23 16:51:17 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
I particularly like the ones where they are selling an item like a PLEX, and as part of the purchase price they require that item in return. So you pay your money and get the item, but it is then instantly yanked back out of your hanger to complete the transaction. Very basic, but apparently surprisingly effective.


Gotta go I, uh, left the oven on in the spaceship...
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Psychophantic
#27 - 2011-11-23 16:51:48 UTC
Malcanis wrote:

Maybe if you try to earn your way into a group instead of buying your way in, you'll be seen as someone worth recruiting rather someone who's only worth scamming.


You can earn your way in by buying a membership to SA forums, hitting yourself in the head with a hammer a few times and then contributing to the meaningful discussions.
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#28 - 2011-11-23 16:52:20 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
I just want to throw out there that A: I'm a Bat Country recruiter and B: Goons don't scam, ever.


Exactly. The correct terminology is bamboozle.
"If."
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#29 - 2011-11-23 18:17:09 UTC
Isn't the icon for a blueprint... you know... blue? As in, looks nothing like the actual item it's a blueprint of?

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#30 - 2011-11-23 18:45:11 UTC
I got scammed in RL once - got married. Why do women have to be such scammers?

Anyway, I learned to watch my back before I started playing this game, and never got scammed. Am I doing it right?

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Hauling Hal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2011-11-23 18:49:54 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Isn't the icon for a blueprint... you know... blue? As in, looks nothing like the actual item it's a blueprint of?



There's different ways of viewing contracts. I use the text listing, as you get more information in a smaller area, but you don't get the icons....
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#32 - 2011-11-23 18:52:04 UTC
Hey OP instead of trolling how about revealing which character you used ot accept the "scam" contract. Any public contracts accepted end up being publically viewable, in this case "Zeet A'Dron" has no finished contracts.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#33 - 2011-11-23 18:53:54 UTC
Hauling Hal wrote:

There's different ways of viewing contracts. I use the text listing, as you get more information in a smaller area, but you don't get the icons....



Oh right. I'm being dumb. Still, I always show info on any and all contracts and trades I do.

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Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2011-11-23 19:13:12 UTC
Word to the wise, don't buy ships on contracts unless it has rigs only, if you see lots of **** in the contract (fitted guns, ammo, random mission trash) check every item very carefully. And do not ever buy a T3 cruiser on contract, because the sub systems can be faked with the skills themselves then covered over with extra trash like guns and tank modules + drones or you could be spending the fully priced amount for just the stock ship without modules, say you spend 500m for it but end up with about half the worth of the item (stock ship looks like a normal ship in inventory, but it is six parts before you can ride it : ship + 5 susbsystems).
Ayumikata
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2011-11-23 19:44:57 UTC
QQ about getting scammed thread. Check the contract carefully next time, there is no "trick" or "exploit" to fake a contract. You just didn't pay enough attention. Or you saw what you wanted to see in the contract list.

umad bro?
Nor Tzestu
Dos Pollos Hermanos
#36 - 2011-11-23 20:04:31 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
I just want to throw out there that A: I'm a Bat Country recruiter and B: Goons don't scam, ever.


Forwarded 2bil isk and a nyx BPO as agreed upon. Why you no accept my application now? Roll
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#37 - 2011-11-23 22:13:01 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
I particularly like the ones where they are selling an item like a PLEX, and as part of the purchase price they require that item in return. So you pay your money and get the item, but it is then instantly yanked back out of your hanger to complete the transaction. Very basic, but apparently surprisingly effective.

That's not how that works.

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Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2011-11-23 22:29:12 UTC
You obviously didnt doublecheck or triplecheck the contract =P enjoy your new blueprint =p

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KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#39 - 2011-11-23 22:30:32 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
I particularly like the ones where they are selling an item like a PLEX, and as part of the purchase price they require that item in return. So you pay your money and get the item, but it is then instantly yanked back out of your hanger to complete the transaction. Very basic, but apparently surprisingly effective.

That's not how that works.


This isnt how that trick is done. You used to do this with Loan contracts, however those were removed. And even while they were still in the game it was considered an exploit to do this

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Ka P'lah
Doomheim
#40 - 2011-11-23 23:11:28 UTC
Paranoia online? Sweet! Paranoia was an awesome game!

Sucks you got scammed - but the risk / danger inherent in this game is half the fun, hmm? :) (really)
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