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MTU / MD Mining Tactic Basic and Advanced
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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#1 - 2014-08-24 16:18:45 UTC  |  Edited by: DrysonBennington
Mining Tactic

If your looking to increase your mining output and reduce your station transfer time try using a Mobile Tractor Beam Depot. Deploy the MTBD and then jettison your ore when your ore hold is full. The MTBD will tractor and store the ore for pick up later on.

The MTU will not tractor other miners jet cans but will tractor in all abandoned wrecks.

Using an MTU will give you 27k of Ore cargo storage volume per MTU.

Place your MTU at intervals of 10k between each other and mine. Once you have cleaned the asteroid belt out simply return with a hauler and collect your ore.

Once the first MTU has been completely filled and a Jet Can is still full of ore the next MTU in the chain will collect the Jet Can and begin the harvesting from the beginning so there are no worries about

Having ten MTU deployed in a belt will allow you too mine 270k units of Ore which will extend your mining operation greatly as you will not need to field an Orca and can mine without having to return to a station to drop your load.

Using an MTU might also keep Gankers from attacking your barge or orca directly if you have a large number of MTU in a belt.

How do MTU's have fun? They play Back and Forth with wrecks.

Something else that is interesting is that a full MTU will still tractor a Jet Can regardless of its cargo volume. So a full MTU can be used to pass the Jet Can onto the next available MTU in your MTU Chain.

Placing Mobile Depots around your MTU's will also give you a small Mobile Mining Operation's Station where you can not only store more ore from the MTU but you can change your barge or support fittings as well.

Simply place eight MD's around a single MTU. Once the MTU has been filled transfer the ore into the MD Network until the MTU is empty and then fill the MTU up again.

This Small Mobile Mining Operations Station set up will allow you to store 54k units of ore for transport later on.

When hauling use the Miasmos that will give you the ability to rapidly transport at least 54k units of ore at a time.

MTU / MD Mining is the Non-Alt Pilot's Orca.
Kaea Astridsson
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#2 - 2014-08-24 23:05:11 UTC
Somehow feel like this is in the wrong subforum.

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-08-25 00:06:35 UTC
Not the right forum, but a very interesting posting all the same.

I am trying some nullsec mining now for the first time, and I think your ideas have some merit for that also. My hulk has a hard-time when BS rats spawn, so your MD idea might be helpful there. I've been jetcanning and miasmos hauling, but a pair or MTUs has the potential to allow me to move around within a cluster much more easily. Wherever my exhumer actually is becoems irrelevant, with the hauler just having to warp in to the MTUs ... and they will also tidyup the rat wrecks as a bonus.

Thanks for the idea.

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Moglarr
Operation Meatshield
#4 - 2014-08-25 02:02:54 UTC
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#5 - 2014-08-25 03:36:13 UTC
Heres a tip actually tank your retrievers and warp your pods off if you get ganked, Dryson here didn't

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Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-08-25 05:45:59 UTC
Are you implying we mine?

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Rahelis
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-08-25 07:43:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Rahelis
You can destroy a mobile with only becoming suspect - so no concord response in high sec.

Mining for sure is the foundation of production in EVE and thus the backbone of PVP - so protecting miners and increase output is an important task.

Mining in low, null and wh space will like the mobile - in high sec you will feed them gankers.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#8 - 2014-08-25 16:01:02 UTC
You're a bit late to the party. Folks have been using MTUs in belts to haul cans for a while now. And while doing so can certainly help you protect an Orca (offgrid boosts FTW), using them certainly doesn't protect your barges, or your ore.

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Navie
LoneStar Dynamics
#9 - 2014-08-26 18:36:28 UTC
I use a smilar simpler tactic, I deploy a single MTU and bookmark it, then i set a timer using the free software "Free countdown timer for for windows" for 1hr 30minutes. the cans will last longer than that and its enough time to grab everything before they start popping even if you gotta go a few jumps in a Miasmos.

Another pro-tip Orca's improve your mining roughly 30% so you need at least 4 accounts to make it worth orca boosting as a single player.... significant gains begin at 5 accounts.... And with 5 accounts you may actually be busy enough mining to not want to kill your self XD....

Anyway if your an orca pilot place a MTU at your orca, use it to fill your orca, then once your orca is full set a 1hr 30 minute timer. before emptying the orca and clearing space of all cans.

Note: you can set up multiple MTU in a small space, but they will bounce wrecks between them so make sure you constantly salvage if your going to do this. or simply mine in .9 or 1.0.
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#10 - 2014-08-26 20:44:11 UTC
Navie wrote:
I use a smilar simpler tactic, I deploy a single MTU and bookmark it, then i set a timer using the free software "Free countdown timer for for windows" for 1hr 30minutes. the cans will last longer than that and its enough time to grab everything before they start popping even if you gotta go a few jumps in a Miasmos.

Another pro-tip Orca's improve your mining roughly 30% so you need at least 4 accounts to make it worth orca boosting as a single player.... significant gains begin at 5 accounts.... And with 5 accounts you may actually be busy enough mining to not want to kill your self XD....

Anyway if your an orca pilot place a MTU at your orca, use it to fill your orca, then once your orca is full set a 1hr 30 minute timer. before emptying the orca and clearing space of all cans.

Note: you can set up multiple MTU in a small space, but they will bounce wrecks between them so make sure you constantly salvage if your going to do this. or simply mine in .9 or 1.0.



except Isboxer exists and you can control 50 accounts with 1 mouse and a screen
and dont get me started on that

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Navie
LoneStar Dynamics
#11 - 2014-08-27 16:11:28 UTC
I only run 2 accounts, and i would consider something like that an exploit personally D:
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#12 - 2014-08-27 22:10:30 UTC
Yes please! If miners could make their ore accessible to the public without having to go criminal, it'd be greatly appreciated.

I for one pretty much blap every MTU I see for no reason whatsoever.

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Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#13 - 2014-08-27 22:55:51 UTC
Navie wrote:
I only run 2 accounts, and i would consider something like that an exploit personally D:


Well CCP says its legal so people do it, honestly i think it kills eve, but this isnt the place for that arguement

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Navie
LoneStar Dynamics
#14 - 2014-08-28 03:28:30 UTC
oh well... okay i would have assumed ccp would be against running like 50 accounts on 1pc...
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#15 - 2014-08-30 02:39:17 UTC  |  Edited by: DrysonBennington
Navie,
Do you suggest placing the MTU / MD right at the belt or 125km 'behind' the belt warp in point? I think both positions would have their pros and cons.

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Here would be a near perfect Mobile Mining Operations Depot for Null Sec.

First you will need the following per Operations Depot

1. MTU - 1
2. MD 1 - 3
3. Mobile Large Warp Disruptor I - 1
4. Large or Medium Micro Jump Drive for your ship - 1 (not effected by warp bubbles or Mobile Disruptors)

Optional - Mobile Scan Inhibitor (costly but worth it when mining the rarest of the rare ore)

First start by placing your MTU and MD's 110km from the belt that you are mining in. Next place Mobile Large Warp Disruptor I close to the MTU and MD's. If more than one MLWD I is used place them in such a manner that a pocket of free space is formed around the MTU / MD's. Next fit a Large or Medium MJD on the ship you are using for a hauler. Sometimes using a BS fit for cargo hauling duty will deter an attack. The MJD will allow your to warp to the Operations location without the ship being effected while Capsuleer's without the MJD fit to their ship will not be able to access the Operations area without becoming bubbled and trapped.

Employing the MSI is very costly but will keep anyone from scanning it down while the field surrounds it for the hour. Placing the MSI would be relative the central location of the MTU / MD'(s).