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KnightMaire kings
The Exchange Collective
#1 - 2014-08-23 01:49:27 UTC  |  Edited by: KnightMaire kings
I fly a logi frig in low sec all the time I deadspace fit them (reps) and love the inquisitor the but there is nowhere to go and stay in a small ship
I like guardians cap chain and transfers
I think things like all newt cruors and assault frigate fleets will be more posable with a advanced logi
thay dont need more reping power thay have more than enough for most fights a little more speed and flexibility over t1 is all
The tec 1 are way to slow even with a prop mod

The only major drawback is the crazed notion that the inventory would look so much better if merely rearranged ONE MORE TIME.
KnightMaire kings
The Exchange Collective
#2 - 2014-08-23 03:31:04 UTC  |  Edited by: KnightMaire kings
Was thinking amar/cal going 3-2 and the min/gal goining like 3.5k with a mwd sig bounus
Any other ideas

The only major drawback is the crazed notion that the inventory would look so much better if merely rearranged ONE MORE TIME.
KnightMaire kings
The Exchange Collective
#3 - 2014-08-30 02:25:01 UTC
200 vews no complants
Do it

The only major drawback is the crazed notion that the inventory would look so much better if merely rearranged ONE MORE TIME.
Rok Hard
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-08-30 02:44:03 UTC
I think it would be awesome to see T2 Frig logi. I've never flown a T1 logi frig but it seems like a logical next step.
Dato Koppla
Neuronix
#5 - 2014-08-30 03:37:32 UTC
Yeah T1 frig logi just don't have the survivability of the T1 cruiser logi because they are slow and have relatively low EHP. Primarying T1 logi frigs is too easy so it's usually better to just bring more independently tanked dps ships. T2 logi frigs will make assault frig fleets a powerful doctrine.
God's Apples
Wilderness
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#6 - 2014-08-31 01:58:45 UTC
Yes just what this name is a greater proliferation of logi ships. T2 logi already have near-frigate sig radius what would t2 logi frigs have, 10m sig?

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KnightMaire kings
The Exchange Collective
#7 - 2014-08-31 04:51:45 UTC  |  Edited by: KnightMaire kings
The probem is now they're so thin that thay vaporise if you look at them funny and thare slow you cant rep any thing becouse its run off and you dont have the rep range or speed to keep up

yes logi are a minoritynand are being apreset

The only major drawback is the crazed notion that the inventory would look so much better if merely rearranged ONE MORE TIME.
iu'ra
Criterion.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#8 - 2014-08-31 05:45:53 UTC
God's Apples wrote:
Yes just what this name is a greater proliferation of logi ships. T2 logi already have near-frigate sig radius what would t2 logi frigs have, 10m sig?



If standard cruiser has x sig average logi sig is y. Take the percent difference of x and y to apply it to the frigate level.
KnightMaire kings
The Exchange Collective
#9 - 2014-08-31 16:42:24 UTC  |  Edited by: KnightMaire kings
Also frig logi all have mwds or are completly useless and cant run away
Also a assault frig and friglogi good counter to cepter fleets

The only major drawback is the crazed notion that the inventory would look so much better if merely rearranged ONE MORE TIME.
Damen Apol
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#10 - 2014-08-31 17:33:26 UTC
logi is literally the cancer that is killing EVE and you want more of it

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KnightMaire kings
The Exchange Collective
#11 - 2014-09-02 04:58:41 UTC
Damen Apol wrote:
logi is literally the cancer that is killing EVE and you want more of it

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Small gangs have more to gane from this than blobs
Also the new frig wh make the t2 frig logi a scary idea

The only major drawback is the crazed notion that the inventory would look so much better if merely rearranged ONE MORE TIME.
Samwise Everquest
Plus 10 NV
#12 - 2014-09-02 22:41:02 UTC
I've never flown or seen t1 logi but it would seem like a small gang would get more benefit out an ewar boat than a logi frigate. Are you talking small gang frigates only or are you proving logi for a small gang of bigger ships?

Also are you the only logi? Solo logi sounds terrible on paper(maybe it works in practice, I don't know) unless you are using the cruiser hulls were you can rep far away from the battle.

Basically I do not see the need for t2 logi frigate or really a good use outside some specific fleet setups.

Pras Phil.
KnightMaire kings
The Exchange Collective
#13 - 2014-09-03 00:53:18 UTC  |  Edited by: KnightMaire kings
Solo frig logi is ok and is nice because you can go in to small fw sites
Also the new small With assault frigs and e war frigs

The only major drawback is the crazed notion that the inventory would look so much better if merely rearranged ONE MORE TIME.
xPredat0rz
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#14 - 2014-09-03 02:46:12 UTC
I like the idea

Here is a better idea though.

Take the T1 Logi. Give it a kick ass paint job and T2 resists. Buff its speed and agility by 5%. Increase the cap recharge a bit and be done.


Basically the T1 logis are too easy to bomb because of terrible resists, ehp and speed.


It has actually gotten to the point its better to bring Cruiser Logis to our Frigate doctrines because they tank better and rep farther and arent that much slower then the frigates.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-09-03 16:54:22 UTC
Their problem is either the legs are too short or the lungs can't keep up. Hell even in long legs mode, you can only keep up if the fight pattern is twisty as hell and you keep cutting corners.
KnightMaire kings
The Exchange Collective
#16 - 2014-09-05 05:57:34 UTC  |  Edited by: KnightMaire kings
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The only major drawback is the crazed notion that the inventory would look so much better if merely rearranged ONE MORE TIME.
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-09-05 06:55:33 UTC
KnightMaire kings wrote:
I fly a logi frig in low sec all the time I deadspace fit them (reps) and love the inquisitor the but there is nowhere to go and stay in a small ship
I like guardians cap chain and transfers
I think things like all newt cruors and assault frigate fleets will be more posable with a advanced logi
thay dont need more reping power thay have more than enough for most fights a little more speed and flexibility over t1 is all
The tec 1 are way to slow even with a prop mod


Issue is that it would make cruisers to unbalanced.

you could have a unkillable frigfleet.

imagine CFC Harpy fleets with T2 logi. Op as ****.


Cool idea but no.
Because balance.

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Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#18 - 2014-09-05 07:46:39 UTC
God's Apples wrote:
Yes just what this name is a greater proliferation of logi ships. T2 logi already have near-frigate sig radius what would t2 logi frigs have, 10m sig?


Yeah, this sounds nice on paper and all but it would be pretty challenging to balance.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#19 - 2014-09-05 10:22:56 UTC
Frig gangs are already a pain to deal with.

Remember that frigates are not just scaled down cruisers. They are a ship class that has it's own specialization and strengths and weaknesses. The logi frigates were added to make it easy for new players to get into logi piloting. They are not supposed to turn a frig gang into a mini ahac gang.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-09-05 12:17:22 UTC
iu'ra wrote:
God's Apples wrote:
Yes just what this name is a greater proliferation of logi ships. T2 logi already have near-frigate sig radius what would t2 logi frigs have, 10m sig?



If standard cruiser has x sig average logi sig is y. Take the percent difference of x and y to apply it to the frigate level.


If you compare the osprey to the basilisk, the same ratio would end up around 31-32 if the Bantam is correctly placed right now. That is completely unfit at all V.
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